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Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

Honda Prelude 1997-2001 Ksport Kontrol Pro Coilovers - Best Price Guaranteed at NLMotoring i was looking at these coilovers in the features it says if your vehicle has a mcpherson type susepnsion you can adjust the camber without needing a cmaber kit? So would that work for my 97 prelude? Or should i go eith another brand and get camber kit seperate.
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

3d, 4th, and 5th gen Preludes do not have a McPherson strut suspension. 2d gens have that sort of setup only on the rear (Chapman struts). 1st gens are struts all around.
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

Thanks so should i just tein street basis coilovers instead with a camber kit?
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

I'm assuming you mean the pillowball upper mounts? These do absolutely nothing on a double wishbone suspension as the control arms dictate the camber angle not the relative angle of the strut. Unfortunately there is no good/easy way to get tonnes of additional camber adjustment with double wishbone beyond the stock adjustment bolt. Most people use adjustable upper control arm bushings but I've always been concerned that they can slip. You used to be able to get upper control arms that had an adjustable ball joint but I think they had clearance issues. The good news is that double wishbone tends to lower reasonably linearly, so as you go low you don't get ridiculous amounts of camber anyway, the stock adjuster should be fine unless you plan to go super duper low. BTW, Tein are heaps better than Ksport (at least they used to be). Get the most expensive coilovers your budget allows.
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

I dont want a huge camber i just want enough to fit 17x8.25 in rims with an offset if +35 without rubbing. Im not super car savvy as im just getting into the
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

Also i only want to lower 1.5-1.75
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

I think stock 4th gen rims are 15x6.5 +55, so using the wheel offset calculator here:
https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
You end up with only 2mm less inner clearance but a whopping 42mm less outer clearance. I can see issues (especially on the front) without rolling and possibly pulling your fenders and cutting big sections out of your inners. Are you going to run much stretch too? You could possibly get a 235/40R17 to fit but clearance would be an issue again, I'd probably run a 215/40R17 on that size rim which would clear a little better and wouldn't look too bad. I have seen people run with really wide rims and/or low offsets and get it to work though.

Anyway, only going 1.5-1.75" lower you shouldn't have any camber issues. I went over 2" lower and got it aligned to back within stock tolerances again. I'm running 215/45R17's (wrong diameter I know) on a 17x7 +40 rim and it does rub a little bit, you're looking at a rim that sits nearly an inch further outboard. Just more food for thought, I don't want to turn this into another "will this rim fit" thread, those answers can be found here:
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

I have a 5th gen, and i did what you said and it says the wheels will stick out 30 mm more then stock, i will be rolling my fenders! And what do you by run much stretch? The tire and rim size i want will be 17x8.25 +35 mm offset and tire size 215/40r17
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

Sorry, I thought for some reason you had a 4th. 4th's and 5th's had essentially the same suspension though. I get the feeling the 5th gens had a bit more fender clearance though, those guys always seem to run heaps larger rims than the 4thers.

A 215 tyre has an 8.5" tread width, but is only really designed to fit on a 7-7.5" rim, so the sidewalls have to be stretched a little to fit on a wider one. i.e. the profile starts to look like /-\ instead of |-|

A 215 on a 8.25" rim is not too bad, I see lots of people run a 195 or lower on that size wheel and think it looks cool. I personally don't see the reason since it not like it actually increases performance at all, it's just dangerous since it increases the chances of the tyre slipping off the bead under heavy cornering.
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Re: Do i need a seperate camber kit or no? Mcpherson type suspension?

Oh yea then it should probably stretch alittle but not by much anyways thansk for the helpful advice man GREATLY apprieciated! I think it should work out just fine with some fender rolling lol ill make it work!
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