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1) I found someone who is old prelude enthusiast in the past selling the tein ss coilovers 2005 model. He had it for 7 years now and only want $200 on top from my end and my tein s tech springs/current oem shocks in return. PRO: its tein ss coilovers lol but in good working condition. no blown shocks. CON: It have approx. 50k ish miles on it, the boots inside the springs are torn. He tracked three times and DD'd with it for 7 years. His prelude was his DD since 2005 till 2008 bought an s2k as a DD. His lude was a weekend car from 2008 to now. He's parting out his lude because someone wrecked his lude and pay him off instead report to the INS.


I researched about tein ss coilover's lifespan can be anywhere from 50k to 80k miles depending on the road where it at, but this tein coilovers if I get already have 50k ish miles on it. Tein does repair/rebuild, but its cost $500 to $675 to rebuilt the set even without the cost for me to ship the set to Tein.


2) I found someone selling a BNIB Ground Control coilovers (380L Front/ 250L rear) for just $275 shipped to my door. On GC site, it retail $340 and $36 to ship. I also found someone that want to buy my tein s tech springs, so I could use the money to buy new oem shocks from advance auto part for lifetime warranty reason. (I know I would love to go for Koni Yellow, but I can't afford it)



I don't mind to go either way, but I would like to see what's your opinion. Thank you luders!


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stock struts will not go well with lowering or coilover springs. save your money and buy yourself a NEW set of megan or f&f coilovers you probly wont be dissapointed.
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this guy again... why is that that youre hazzling with your suspension-dreaming all the time!?

- DO YOUR RESEARCH AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND! damned...

- dont even plan to do anything if you dont have enough money.

its like you get all the time these crappy ideas and then you make new thread about them. pointless and its just stupid.

so:

1) dont buy cheap/used/non fitting crap-parts
2a) keep your stock suspension if you dont affort to get proper one
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2b) if you have money buy good setup, it costs more but then youll be ok in suspension-wise

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if your DD keep your springs

if your going to actually do track, buy the GC coilovers with koni yellow shocks.

do not buy tein coilovers
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stock struts will not go well with lowering or coilover springs. save your money and buy yourself a NEW set of megan or f&f coilovers you probly wont be dissapointed.
Why spend alot for the expensives one when I just want to go low a little bit than my current setup? I don't go for performance. So, not need to have the expensive coilovers. My Lude is DD, low&slow and based for show.

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this guy again... why is that that youre hazzling with your suspension-dreaming all the time!?

- DO YOUR RESEARCH AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND! damned...

- dont even plan to do anything if you dont have enough money.

its like you get all the time these crappy ideas and then you make new thread about them. pointless and its just stupid.

so:

1) dont buy cheap/used/non fitting crap-parts
2a) keep your stock suspension if you dont affort to get proper one
OR
2b) if you have money buy good setup, it costs more but then youll be ok in suspension-wise
You get mad that easily?

Who say I buy cheap/used/non fitting crap parts when I go for GC or TEIN? How can I be dreaming if I'm going to get one of these setups?
like I said, my lude is DD based on low and slow and for show. I don't go for performance. I don't track or autox or anything like that. I can't afford for the expensive coilovers as Im being honest so used setup or new GC with new shocks are the way to go for me. Everyone is different.

How can it be pointless and just stupid if I ask everyone for their opinion. Thats what this site is for to help luders out. Actually its pointless for you make a post like this. Thank you anyway.
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if your DD keep your springs

if your going to actually do track, buy the GC coilovers with koni yellow shocks.

do not buy tein coilovers
I don't like the current spring I have because it doesn't look right with my new wheels. If I show you the picture of my lude, you'll realize I need a drop, lol.

No, I don't track... but what's wrong with GC coilovers with new shocks even lifetime warranty peace of mind? Just DD/ slow and low thats all.

Now you say do not buy tein coilovers... thank you for your opinion.
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I don't like the current spring I have because it doesn't look right with my new wheels. If I show you the picture of my lude, you'll realize I need a drop, lol.

No, I don't track... but what's wrong with GC coilovers with new shocks even lifetime warranty peace of mind? Just DD/ slow and low thats all.

Now you say do not buy tein coilovers... thank you for your opinion.
I had tein coilovers on my old prelude. They were Tein Basics, 1 strut blew out from DD-ing.

As for you just covering a gap for that lowered affect. Look into megan or skunk2 springs. There a big drop. Just won't handle or ride as good.

My 2nd prelude i had GC with stock struts & koni yellows. With stock struts they were horrible to drive around in. Shock kept bottoming out, wasn't a smooth ride. Once i got the koni yellows in, it was night and day difference.

Your money, your choice. Your going to here a lot though springs & stock shocks, or sleeved coilovers with stock shocks is not a good combo (unless they have R&D behind them, & have progressive spring rate's). We all did it, and we all threw money down the drain.
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I had tein coilovers on my old prelude. They were Tein Basics, 1 strut blew out from DD-ing.

As for you just covering a gap for that lowered affect. Look into megan or skunk2 springs. There a big drop. Just won't handle or ride as good.

My 2nd prelude i had GC with stock struts & koni yellows. With stock struts they were horrible to drive around in. Shock kept bottoming out, wasn't a smooth ride. Once i got the koni yellows in, it was night and day difference.

Your money, your choice. Your going to here a lot though springs & stock shocks, or sleeved coilovers with stock shocks is not a good combo (unless they have R&D behind them, & have progressive spring rate's). We all did it, and we all threw money down the drain.
If i were found a set of tein basic coilovers in used condition, I wouldn't go for it because tein basics have bad lifespan from what I researched and tein SS coilovers have good lifespan, but I more likely go for GC. Lower springs aren't not the answer because skunk2 is over 2 inch drop meaning my tires will rub my fenders right there when drop. its 16x8 +20 offset with 205/45/16 tires. I will be interested into coilovers more because its adjustment so I can drop it till like 1 inch between tire and fender then call it a day. My current setup is 3 inch between fender and tire (take a look at the picture that I added on the original post)


now I have to think which shocks I go for.. oem shocks or tokico or kyb agx.
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used & cheap = problems

do not cheap out something as important as suspension... if you buy cheap crap, soon after that you have to get something better when they blew
whats the point in that? afterall it becomes much more expensive when you have to bay 1st from the crap and 2nd from the good part

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used & cheap = problems
the GC coilovers I'm getting is new.... and any shocks could be oem shocks from advance or tokicos or maybe kyb (i have to research more) but will be new. I've decided to not go for tein ss coilovers.
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dont do stock shocks... get some which are designed to work with lower/stiffer springs
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dont do stock shocks... get some which are designed to work with lower/stiffer springs
like what? koni isnt the answer because the GC im getting only works for oem shocks, tokico, and kyb.
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... are you talking about height adjustable springs?

THEY ARE NOT COILOVERS!!

anything is better than oem with lowering springs
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... are you talking about height adjustable springs?

THEY ARE NOT COILOVERS!!

anything is better than oem with lowering springs
No... Im saying is that I will get a set of GC coilovers that made for oem shocks/tokico/kyb. So I will research more about tokico and kyb. Thanks.
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Thank you guys for your help. I go for ground control coilovers, now I need to research which shocks better for the GC. Thank you guys.
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Do not go with stock shocks. They are terrible. I have stock shocks w/ Eibach Sportlines (~2") and the ride is very firm and I can feel every bump in the road. Do yourself a favor and just spend the extra cash on shocks that are actually compatible with the GC's unlike OEM equivalent shocks.

I'm looking at Tokico blues but I'm still undecided.
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Do not go with stock shocks. They are terrible. I have stock shocks w/ Eibach Sportlines (~2") and the ride is very firm and I can feel every bump in the road. Do yourself a favor and just spend the extra cash on shocks that are actually compatible with the GC's unlike OEM equivalent shocks.

I'm looking at Tokico blues but I'm still undecided.
I am current researching for tokicos and kyb, but thank you.
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I went with tokico blues. They are non adjustable but are meant for lowering springs/coil overs. They seem to have a much more precise and tight rebound and compression. Tokico also makes an adjustable version called the illumina. What they mean by using stock shocks is that they want you to use shocks that fit like OEM shocks. They don't have to be "stock" shocks.
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this guy again... why is that that youre hazzling with your suspension-dreaming all the time!?

- DO YOUR RESEARCH AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND! damned...

- dont even plan to do anything if you dont have enough money.

its like you get all the time these crappy ideas and then you make new thread about them. pointless and its just stupid.

so:

1) dont buy cheap/used/non fitting crap-parts
2a) keep your stock suspension if you dont affort to get proper one
OR
2b) if you have money buy good setup, it costs more but then youll be ok in suspension-wise
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The best thing you could do with your money, is hire a tutor. One specializing in grammar.
Give him a break, he's deaf lol.

And I might be wrong but I think that what your thinking of are called adjustable coils or sleeves and still need shocks. Coilovers are the whole package with shocks incorporated and usually go for at least $650+
Tokico and KYB are great brands for shocks too.
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Seriously?? You go throughout your life without hearing how words are pronounced and try to configure a sentence. To the OP, we aren't all like this.
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I went with tokico blues. They are non adjustable but are meant for lowering springs/coil overs. They seem to have a much more precise and tight rebound and compression. Tokico also makes an adjustable version called the illumina. What they mean by using stock shocks is that they want you to use shocks that fit like OEM shocks. They don't have to be "stock" shocks.
Ah, thanks for the info. I more likely go for tokicos, but I gotta research more.

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Sighs Im facepalmin' at ya... What do I need to research after Im only simply asking everyones opinion to see which one they choice which setup (new GC or used tein ss coilovers) if they were in my position? It is not like I make a thread asking how to take out my front seats or which best coilovers for my lude. I did my homework and Im only asking everyones opinion which setup they will go for if they were in my position.

I am not sorry if you get mad that my gammer is bad, but hey at least you understand what I'm saying so quit bitching.


What's this site for? I am here to learn, ask questions, and etc to increase my knowledge. Thanks to all the luders who helped me in the past.

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Give him a break, he's deaf lol.

And I might be wrong but I think that what your thinking of are called adjustable coils or sleeves and still need shocks. Coilovers are the whole package with shocks incorporated and usually go for at least $650+
Tokico and KYB are great brands for shocks too.
I may be confuse of the words, but all I know is I want the GC coilovers and maybe tokicos shocks if I like to hear from what I research more.

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Thanks. I don't blame myself for being deaf. Its what I born with. At least, I can write, read, talk well, wear hearing aids, and driving a PRELUDE!
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All I wanna say is that your lude is sexy. That is all. Lol
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UPDATE: I want GC coilovers, but unfortunately, all shocks doesn't work well with the GC other than Koni yellow. GC/Koni setup is like $800 and shipping cost which I can't afford that, but I think Fuction & Form Type 1 full coilovers is more likely the answer for me because it will be new, meet my need for good drop, great reviews and only 550 shipped. I have $300 with me so far, so I will keep saving till I can afford it to buy. Thanks for your help, guys.
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UPDATE: I want GC coilovers, but unfortunately, all shocks doesn't work well with the GC other than Koni yellow. GC/Koni setup is like $800 and shipping cost which I can't afford that, but I think Fuction & Form Type 1 full coilovers is more likely the answer for me because it will be new, meet my need for good drop, great reviews and only 550 shipped. I have $300 with me so far, so I will keep saving till I can afford it to buy. Thanks for your help, guys.
Good Choice, I think HondaVerno could have givin you some insight about GC coilovers tho because i think he is/was running the GC/KYB set up.
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