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Recommended Tire size & Offsets!

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**This recommended tire sizing is in no way related to stretching tires and running wider wheels to achieve a flush fitment.**

5th Generation (1997-2001)

205/50/15 - Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
205/55/15 - Recommended 15€ Size Tire w/ 6.5" wide wheel
215/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch, Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/45/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is recommended, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/50/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/50/16 - Stock Size, Recommended 16" Size Tire
215/45/16 - Larger Contact Patch
215/50/16 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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215/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Recommended 17" Size Tire
215/45/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/40/17 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Very Limited Selection of Brands
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215/35/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Small Profile means Less Protection for Wheels
215/40/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/35/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Recommended tire size for 18x7.5" with at least a +48mm offset
225/40/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger, Not Recommended if car is Lowered
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215/35/19 - Large contact patch, recommended 19" tyre

(Try as I might, I've not found anybody running any other size without drama)




4th Generation (1992-1996)

205/55/15 - Stock Size, Recommended 15" Size Tire
205/50/15 - Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
215/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch, Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/45/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is recommended, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/50/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/50/16 - Recommended 16" Size Tire
215/45/16 - Larger Contact Patch
215/50/16 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/40/17 - Overall Diameter is Smaller, Not Recommended w/ 7.5" wide or larger wheel
215/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Recommended 17" Size Tire
215/45/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/40/17 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Very Limited Selection of Brands
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215/35/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Small Profile means Less Protection for Wheels
215/40/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/35/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Recommended tire size for 18x7.5" with at least a +48mm offset
225/40/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger, Not Recommended if car is Lowered


3rd Generation (1988-1991)

195/60/14 - Stock Size
205/55/14 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Smaller
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205/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch
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215/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
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205/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch


Offset




4th & 5th Gen. Stock = 6.5" Wide Wheel w/ +55mm
3rd Generation Stock = 5.5" Wide Wheel w/ +45mm


6.5" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen

Less than +38mm ::: You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.
+38mm to +55mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 6.5" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +55mm ::: You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.


7" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen

Less than +38mm ::: Not Recommended
+38mm to +41mm ::: Not Recommended if you are, or plan to be, lowered. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.
+42mm to +44mm ::: This is a grey area if you are lowered, results vary depending on tire and/or drop. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.
+45mm to +50mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 7" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +51mm ::: Not Recommend. You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.


7.5" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen

Less than +40mm ::: Not Recommended
+40mm to +43mm ::: Not Recommended if you are, or plan to be, lowered. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using any tire with an overall diameter larger than stock and/or with a tire width larger than 215.
+44mm to +47mm ::: This is a grey area if you are lowered, results vary depending on tire and/or drop. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using a tire with an overall diameter more than slightly larger than stock, you chances of rubbing increase.
+48mm to +52mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 7.5" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +53mm ::: Not Recommend. You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.


8" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen

Some have had success with offset of +45, but not many ::: Tyre size is very dependant on whether or not this will work.

If unsure, use the offset calculator. ---> Wheel Offset Calculator


Stock Bolt Pattern

5th Generation ::: 5x114.3 (some vehicles delivered in Australia, Europe and the Middle East among other places were fitted with 4x114.3 hubs)
4th Generation ::: 4x114.3
3rd Generation ::: 4x100


Will it throw my speedo out?

circumference = pi*d
circumference = pi*(wheel diameter in inches*0.0254+2*tyre width in mm*aspect ratio/100000)
circumference = pi*(16*0.0254+2*205*50/100000)
circumference = 1.921 m

Then work out the new circumference, devide old by new, multiply by 100 and that is your actual speed at the indicated speed of 100km/h (then convert to imperial, since I'm not sure if the forumla works in feet/miles)

Or use this ---> Tire size calculator


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And if you are trying to achieve a flush fitment, rather than spamming the forum with rediculous questions and irritating the hell out of the members, click here

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225/40/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger, Not Recommended if car is Lowered

That's what I just switched to :D. I still wanna lower ir and get it back to stock height. Now I feel like I'm getin out of a monster truck.
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Is there anyway to increase your offset? Just bought some Enkei Evo 5 17x7 with +42 offset and 215/40/17 tires. I am planning to lower my car atlease 2". Will rubbing be consider an issue...since those wheels only comes with an offset of +42.
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First of all, I have always had trouble corresponding tire sizes to wheels sizes. Would 17x8 wheels fit on a 5th gen, I assume those would be 225/40/17 correct? What kind of profile is that as opposed to stock? Also, I have no idea what offset means.
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Offset is the distance the wheel sits out from the hub (or something like that) High offsets have wheels that sit well inside the guards, low offsets have them sitting out flush. On the VIP cars such as Toyota Celsiors, etc they have deep dish rims sitting flush with the guards (or even past it!) often with 10 or 15 offsets for example.

According to guide in the first post an 8inch wide rim may or may not work without your guards being rolled or lipped. However when I get some time I'll do a bit of searching and will update that post, since it has been around largely without change for a number of years.

The 225 of your 225/40 profile is the width of the tyre in mm, and equates to 8 and 109/127 inches (8.85 inches). Again, according to the guide in post #1 this will work, but 215/40 is the reccommended size.
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Bump. Added interesting stuff to the first page.
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Offset is the distance the wheel sits out from the hub (or something like that) High offsets have wheels that sit well inside the guards, low offsets have them sitting out flush. On the VIP cars such as Toyota Celsiors, etc they have deep dish rims sitting flush with the guards (or even past it!) often with 10 or 15 offsets for example.

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it still didnt really help me cus the combo i want doesnt really have any info. im lookin at a 16x8 with a +15 offset with 205/40/16 i just want to know how much itll stick out? i want a deep wheel!!!!!!

all i can figure is a 8" rim is too much for that offset so maby a 7" rim with a 30 offset might be ok? im just tryin to get the type of rim i want and not compromise.....i dunno im all confused now :(

i found this i think its what im lookin for. also sorry for posting so much cant figure out how to delete lol
http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...977#prodAnchor

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Page doesn't load for me mate.

I've not seen anybody do a +15 offset on a Prelude anywhere. I saw somebody do a 0 offset once, and that looked crap. I can't imagine 15 lookign much different.



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Page doesn't load for me mate.

I've not seen anybody do a +15 offset on a Prelude anywhere. I saw somebody do a 0 offset once, and that looked crap. I can't imagine 15 lookign much different.



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yeah i gave up on the kind of offset the wheels would stick out like 2inch im gonna try a 38 offset it shouldnt stick out, and what offset is that on that car? and thats weird the link didnt work ill try to just get a pic up.
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yeah i gave up on the kind of offset the wheels would stick out like 2inch im gonna try a 38 offset it shouldnt stick out, and what offset is that on that car? and thats weird the link didnt work ill try to just get a pic up.
im doin a +30 upfront and +15 in the rear......wheels jus got delivered today ....
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really? i gotta see what that looks like, you dont have any fender mods right? like wide body?

what offset do you have?

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205/40/17 with a 42 offset and slammed hard with no trimming and no rubbing!
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the offset for my rims is +40mm, http://www.buywheelstoday.com
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they are 18x7.5 verde black ice and the tires that i have on there now are rubbing 225/40/18.

How does this affect my car though? why do i need a bigger offset? so there for my offset there is no chance? the correct tire size is 225/35-18 or 215-35-18?

whats wrong with raising the car with spacers or coilovers?

what is the correct tire size for my car?
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with the offset you have, the wheel is to far outward. a higher offset brings the wheel more closer to the center of the car. like the pic above, thats a really low offset, see how the wheel sticks out from under the car. you tire is rubbing on the fender. you might be able to get away with 215/35/18. can't guarantee it though. nothing wrong with raising the car a bit. it will help, depending on how high you raise it. but your best bet to guarantee you won't rub would be to get a higher offset.
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Re: Recommended Tire size & Offsets!

ive got a uk 4th gen with 215 40 17 on a 7.5"rim offset 38 fits like a glove.

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Re: Recommended Tire size & Offsets!

The JUN prelude has 235's stuffed on the front of it, I'd like to run a 235 on a 16 inch wheel. that is why im going to get some CCW C2's
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Re: Recommended Tire size & Offsets!

Question for you guys.... I am rocking stock 92 si rims (205-55-15) lowered ~1.6"

When I was young and didn't know much (which hasn't changed) and bought the lude, I rocked some kumho 195-65-15s because that is all the tire place had in stock that would fit (and the old tires were as pure dry rot). I am not willing to go that route again, even though it's cheaper, because of the smaller contact patch... it worked for a kid with an h23...

So, I am shopping around for tires again... I have been rocking a few sets of yokohama avid v4s since the kumhos and I like them a lot... stock size (205-55-15), and I want to know what you guys think about this...

I noticed that 205-60-15s are cheap... I was thinking about giving Falken a try... the 205-60-15 is about 20 bucks cheaper than the 205-55-15 (same tire otherwise...), and about 25 bucks cheaper than the avid v4s I love... (we had the "same" falkens on my wife's corolla, but traded it before we could observe treadlife... grip was good.). Avid h4s (205-60-15) are about 15 bucks cheaper than the Avid v4s... and I'm pretty sure they are very similar.

So, would it be okay to try the 205-60-15s?
I don't think fitment would be an issue, and I guess it will have a slight effect on acceleration, but I don't think would matter...

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