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Old 08-19-2008, 06:05 PM
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SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Hey all, I'm trying to source parts to do the 5 lug conversion on my 4th gen.

CAn I use both SH and NON-SH front and rear spindles/hubs?


any help greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

If you want to swap to the 5 lug I would get the entire suspension for the base, because most of the parts are different from the base and SH. Plus alot of the base part are a bit cheaper.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

yea but I can't find anyone thats willing to sell.... thers an SH being parted out in the classifieds section and I'm gonna try to work out a price with him, so long as it will work on my 4th gen.

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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Well both Base or Sh will bolt up to your 4th gen chassis but heres the difference with the suspension:

-The Type SH springs are a bit taller.
-The struts are different as well, the base where the spring is perched sits lower on the Type SH, hence the taller spring. It has a little firmer spring rate than the base.
-The front knuckles are different, the radius rods, the front trailing arms, and the roll bars are a couple of millimeters thicker than the base front and rear. -The rear trailing arms are a little thicker as well but not by much.

-The only problems with after market struts would be having to modify the dust guards on the struts with stock springs. If you go after market springs and struts that are replaced properly you will not run into any issues
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Well I have ground control coilovers and tokico struts that are going on at the same time I do the conversion.

The front knuckles being different is what is worrying me... i'm a real noob here so please explain in a little more lamens terms. that is, what kind of adverse effects in terms of bolting on, and driving the car, and the way the car will drive will i experience with these differences?

Sorry for the lack of basic knowledge I have here, its just that you can say that it bolts up so i'm like ok but then you say its different, but I dont know what to expect.

Thanks in advance for further clarification :-)
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

The difference is between the base and Sh suspension. You seem pretty knowledgeable to me so no worries there at all for ya!

If you are going to go with suspension either stick all with Sh or stick all with Base dont intermix them.

I honestly would try and find the Base conversion.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

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The difference is between the base and Sh suspension. You seem pretty knowledgeable to me so no worries there at all for ya!

If you are going to go with suspension either stick all with Sh or stick all with Base dont intermix them.
when you say dont intermix, which parts are you refering to intermixing?

I'd be buying 4 SH kuckles, and hubs, 4 SH Calipers and Caliper Mounting Brackets, and I'd be buying 4 new rotors and pads.

When you say dont mix you mean dont use SH Kuckles and standard hubs?

I just want to make sure beacuse these these parts an't exactly cheap, and they're a bitch to resell if I have to because they wont work for my application.

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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Exactly dont use sh knuckles and use Base hubs.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

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yea but I can't find anyone thats willing to sell.... thers an SH being parted out in the classifieds section and I'm gonna try to work out a price with him, so long as it will work on my 4th gen.

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kevin the lude that i rock now is a SH but the one that i am parting out that you are inquiring about is a BASE.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

OH WERD?

lol well forget all this nonsense

hook it up with the base parts brah!!! :-)

thanks for your help either way 99PreludeSh!!! at least i learned soemthing new!
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

YES its probably in your best interest to stick with the base.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Well, as for the basic stuff, it's the same though. I recommend getting a new hubs and bearings all together just to be on the safe side and do it right. rich045 spent a good bit on his swap but it's very nice in the end, he also got some new stuff that he didn't have to get but did.
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

Well what I plan on doign is buying the 4 knuckles and hubs, and calipers and mounting brackets.

I'm going to get brand new brembo blank rotors, and pads.

Is there such thing as after market hubs? and is there a reason to really buy new hubs? do they go bad?

What exactly is the bearings and what do they do? Is this the same thing as the CV joints? beacuse if they are I just had these replaced about 3 months ago.

Sorry for the noob questions, I'm kinda learning as I go here.

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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

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Well what I plan on doign is buying the 4 knuckles and hubs, and calipers and mounting brackets.

I'm going to get brand new brembo blank rotors, and pads.

Is there such thing as after market hubs? and is there a reason to really buy new hubs? do they go bad?

What exactly is the bearings and what do they do? Is this the same thing as the CV joints? beacuse if they are I just had these replaced about 3 months ago.

Sorry for the noob questions, I'm kinda learning as I go here.

thanks!
There isn't a "performance" aftermarket hub - if thats what u mean

here - i posted this a while ago - have a read!!

Today's Lesson - Words to Know When Working on a Car

it's the very last posting i did - it's all about that stuff
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outstanding! thanks!! I'll give it a read!
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

can anyone suggest me a brand for new hubs and perhaps where to get them?

I'm just curious to see what they cost. I may be interested in buying a new one like you guys are suggesting vs. trying to buy a used set from a 5th gen
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

brands....ummm...well IDK brands, but when I had to buy my new HUB I went to the only place in 150 mi. that carries them and it was whatever they had in stock. Which is what Im guessing would be your best bet. I don't think there are any "aftermarket" hubs made by a popular company, lol. I am probably wrong, but that's what I have seen
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

yea but that doesn't tell me much... what was the name of the store you went to?

Should I just go to discount auto parts? did the ones u bought come in a box with a brand (any brand) that i can google?
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

I bought it so long ago i no longer have the box, lol - sorry

I went to a place called Metric Auto - they have a Metric Auto Store and Metric Auto Parts

IDK if thats all over the country or not - but its worth a shot i guess!
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Re: SH spindles the same as the non-SH?

cool well thanks for the tip, i'll try my local auto parts stores this weekend.

anyone else got any tips in terms of brands that i can search online?
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