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Old 02-04-2009, 03:27 PM
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Greddy oil catch can

ok so greddy oil catch can, spent like $50 on it and love it. i read in either modified or import tuner a while back where they do the fact or fiction section and they asked do catch cans or valve cover breathers actually add power. turns out they squeeked 6whp out with the catch can, and lost 2whp with the breather filter. so i gave it a shot, and with the h22 i was able to FEEL it pull a little harder in the midrange. plus the most pleasing thing about it? my rear bumper is clean. little/no black VTEC smoke ---> no black bumper. catch can, 2 birds one stone.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

Pictures of it installed?
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

I have a breather on mine right now, I think I might have to get one :)
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

how long was the install?
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

total install time, like, 20 mins. the only hard part was actually finding somewhere to put it. be advised though, you will need more hose to reach where i put mine.
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where you get it for $50 ? lol
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looks good i never would have thought to put it there
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

i dont remember, i bought it like 6 months ago. i think i got it at andysautosport.com or maybe modacar.com there was a few different ones. like a cylinder and some other brands. and the location, well, it was pretty much the choice by default. the only other place i could think of was where the clutch res. is. (since i have auto tranny)
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

I yanked my cruise control so if I ever get one of these that's where it's going.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

nice engine bay and that looks sweet, i want one!
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

i was ganna do a catch can, but i dont kno what they do. if i did it i would do a cruise control delete
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

yea i recommend it. if for nothing else, the cleaner rear bumper. i should go and take a pic of it now, you can actually see where it has pulled in oil in the line that would have otherwise gone into my intake.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

I think I am going to have to splurge for one. Can anyone post up a good place to get one?
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I saw one on a 800+ hp Supra made out of a Mountain Dew bottle. I may do a DIY.
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Haha, I'd do it with a can of Monster.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

Wow, that's a pretty cool mod, sounds like it definitely serves a purpose too
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the breathers are the most pointless thing ever. all they do is actually the opposite. they get clogged with oil and then lets it breath less... looks good tho
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the breathers are the most pointless thing ever. all they do is actually the opposite. they get clogged with oil and then lets it breath less... looks good tho
Which is why I went back to the tube.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

The catch can you have serves no purpose because your PCV valve still has a hose directly from it into the intake manifold. And it can be said that the PCV valve will actually shoot more oil into your intake manifold than the breather on the top left of your valve cover. The only real way that this modification won't let anymore oil particles/fumes into your intake and engine is if you were to get double catch cans.

I'll post up my solution to this a little bit later, but as of right now, you're cutting off maybe half of that crap to your engine, you've still got the other half to go!
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The catch can you have serves no purpose because your PCV valve still has a hose directly from it into the intake manifold.
thats retarded. its like sayin, that cold air intake you have serves no purpose because you still have the same throttle body and intake manifold. the purpose is to eliminate a large source of oil into the intake manifold. if thats your mentality then why do anything to your engine if youre not going to turn it into a complete race engine?
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a double catch can????? umm a coke bottle is a better idea than that. its been proven that a single catch can works

ill find the guy on here who has 4 line coming off his valve cover in to ONE catch can to keep from using oil...and his is strictly a track car
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

Well my point is this, why not run the catch can for your PCV valve hose and then route a long hose from the valve cover breather to the bottom of your engine bay.

Here, I threw up a picture for you.

1. Go to an auto parts store and find a rubber nipple cover that's big enough to fit the fitting on your intake.

2. Just branch off a length of hose (maybe 4 ft) from the valve cover breather to the ground. Then get under it with a pair of scissors and cut it to length so it doesn't drag on the ground. You won't have to worry about anything going up this long length of hose like dust or whatever because when the engine is on, its pulsing out the crankcase pressure. When the engine is off, the tube is too small and restrictive to allow any debris to go up into it.




Now for the best part when you do this, you'll have one less hot-crankcase-venting source going into your intake, heating up your intake charge. And when you hook the catch can into your PCV setup, no more oil particles going into your intake at all!

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so you want any oil that does come out the VC to go under your car and get all along the bottom of your car...i guess you like cleaning up oil on your car

catch cans work or nobody would use them.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

Now when you're going to go bigtime F/I setup, this is what you need to do, explanation follows after you see the picture and can wipe all the drool up...






This guy has had two AN-fittings bungs welded onto the valve cover. He's then routed lines to a "crankcase breather" (notice I didn't say oil catch can) back where the Cruise Control used to be. This ventilates the positive crankcase pressure which will reduce stress on the engine and probably gain a couple more horsepower. Also, on a turbo or supercharger application, you should have a small line at the bottom of your crankcase ventilation can/box that routes all accumulated oil back into the oil pan. Which will require a small bung welded on the top end of the oil pan for it to flow back into. This last part is what most people neglect to do anyway.

And once you have these two bungs are welded on the front, you can have your aluminum welder weld the PCV valve and breather valve shut. You don't need them anymore and your engine will function just fine (if not better) without them.
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so you want any oil that does come out the VC to go under your car and get all along the bottom of your car...i guess you like cleaning up oil on your car

catch cans work or nobody would use them.
Oil under my car has never been a problem, here is a picture of the underside of my car after 3 years with a setup like this....





For your reference, if you look closely at the underside of my engine in this picture, you will see the tiny hose hanging down where it comes from the crankcase breather. Overall, if you think the underside of my car is dirtier for having this modification, I beg to differ.
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Re: Greddy oil catch can

and for those of you who dont want to have 4 AN bugs welded onto your VC, you can simply get an oil catch can.

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Re: Greddy oil catch can

akapreludesh,
you talk a big game for having such a clean engine,
You really don't know much about old prelude engines...

Us 200,000+ Original motor dudes know of this oil problem, there is never once oil sitting near my PCV. Infact smaller fractions fall from the PCV because crankcase pressure opens the spring inside the PCV allowing blowby gasses (less abundant in your newer engine once again) back into the intake manifold to be reburned.

That big gaping tube you have left to the world shoots out your oil, and allows your crankcase to breathe, now theres in nothing mechanicly wrong with your design of letting it to the road except wel.. it's red neck and you're now taking an emission control and turning it naughty. oooooh boy! MOAR HOARSE POWA!

Now, is it worth $50 to keep some oil out of your intake?
Not at all! lol. it looks cool and all but that oil will in no way hurt your engine, nor will it make it really bad for that matter... no i don't think that a can could add 6 whp, who knows what happened with the dyno, if you wanna make power go big, but if you're trying to make your engine a little greener, GET SOME!

The non-sensical fighting that goes on now is so silly,
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Rep is awarded to those who input something more than the average shmuck could do, and it is in no way honerable in my opinion posting everywhere that you want rep, you get it by getting respect from these guys.

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akapreludesh,
you talk a big game for having such a clean engine,
You really don't know much about old prelude engines...

Us 200,000+ Original motor dudes know of this oil problem, there is never once oil sitting near my PCV. Infact smaller fractions fall from the PCV because crankcase pressure opens the spring inside the PCV allowing blowby gasses (less abundant in your newer engine once again) back into the intake manifold to be reburned.

That big gaping tube you have left to the world shoots out your oil, and allows your crankcase to breathe, now theres in nothing mechanicly wrong with your design of letting it to the road except wel.. it's red neck and you're now taking an emission control and turning it naughty. oooooh boy! MOAR HOARSE POWA!

Now, is it worth $50 to keep some oil out of your intake?
Not at all! lol. it looks cool and all but that oil will in no way hurt your engine, nor will it make it really bad for that matter... no i don't think that a can could add 6 whp, who knows what happened with the dyno, if you wanna make power go big, but if you're trying to make your engine a little greener, GET SOME!

The non-sensical fighting that goes on now is so silly,
akapreludesh,
Rep is awarded to those who input something more than the average shmuck could do, and it is in no way honerable in my opinion posting everywhere that you want rep, you get it by getting respect from these guys.

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akapreludesh,
you talk a big game for having such a clean engine,
1 You really don't know much about old prelude engines...

Us 200,000+ Original motor dudes know of this oil problem, there is never once oil sitting near my PCV. 2 Infact smaller fractions fall from the PCV because crankcase pressure opens the spring inside the PCV allowing blowby gasses (less abundant in your newer engine once again) back into the intake manifold to be reburned.

That big gaping tube you have left to the world shoots out your oil, and allows your crankcase to breathe, now theres in nothing mechanicly wrong with your design of letting it to the road except wel.. 3 it's red neck and you're now taking an emission control and turning it naughty. oooooh boy! MOAR HOARSE POWA!

Now, is it worth $50 to keep some oil out of your intake?
Not at all! lol. it looks cool and all but that oil will in no way hurt your engine, nor will it make it really bad for that matter... 4 no i don't think that a can could add 6 whp, who knows what happened with the dyno, if you wanna make power go big, but if you're trying to make your engine a little greener, GET SOME!

The non-sensical fighting that goes on now is so silly,
akapreludesh,
5 Rep is awarded to those who input something more than the average shmuck could do, and it is in no way honerable in my opinion posting everywhere that you want rep, you get it by getting respect from these guys.

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Well, I'll tear this apart fallacy by fallacy on your response because you think I'm a noob with no experience on this matter.

1. First off, in my build thread, I have proven my previous engine had 225,000 miles on it. Now this new engine has 15,000 miles on it. But when I had my 225,000 mile engine, I did know alot about oil burning and oil leakage, because I lived it. In fact, to find where exactly most of my missing oil was coming from, I had a catch can put in. Don't believe me? Here's pictures. I routed it from the PCV all the way to the catch can behind the drivers headlight:







2. The catchcan from the PCV caught alot of oil I found. In 3 months, the catch can had been filled 1/4 or 1/3 of the way.

But I didn't have the hose routed from the valve cover breather to the ground then, it was still going into my top fuel intake on the normal location. I inspected it for months after putting on this new intake, because the clean aluminum surface and carbon fiber surface on the inside made it easy to spot any evidence of oil buildup, which I found to be almost insignificant compared to the amount my PCV catch can was collecting. This is why I elected to just run the hose straight to the ground after that, because impact on the environmnet was negligible.

3. So now, speaking of environmental concerns, I know all about them. But what I also know is that out of all the modifications to my car, there is no way it's good for the environment at all. I switched from OBD2a to OBD1, my EGR valve is blocked off, I run an aftermarket catalytic convertor and yadda yadda yadda. So what's a little hose that not too much comes out of really going to make a difference?


4. You're right, I don't think this modification can add horsepower... on an N/A engine, but on an F/I engine, it has been proven, because F/I engines make more pressure that corresponds into pressure in the crankcase also increasing. This pressure has to exit somehow, and if it's not through the normal venting means like it's supposed to, it's going to find a way out. Like your piston rings. But thank God on the dyno, my oil dipstick popped out and vented it that way, instead of doing damage to the rings. And I'm not even making that much horsepower!

5. I don't understand this comment. I might've asked for rep points once, out of a joke, and that was helping a guy find some paint that would match perfect and ship overseas. And he appreciated it, big deal.



All I was saying initially in this thread was that I knew a more efficient way of taking advantage of having a catch can and I was trying to tell him that. Then, for those that have questions about catch cans or crankcase breathers (closely related), I wanted to point out all of the finer details in a decision. Isn't this how "rep points" are earned? By sharing knowledge? If not, let me know so I can start doing it your way.

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