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type-s pistons

im rebuilding my h22 engine with 210,xxx miles, and is it possible to rebuild everything oem but with type-s pistons? ive searched around a bit and some say you can and some say you cant. will i have to sleeve my block or could i just hone it? or not do anything to it? im planning to turbo in the future, but for now could i get a little more hp by getting the type-s pistons?
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im rebuilding my h22 engine with 210,xxx miles, and is it possible to rebuild everything oem but with type-s pistons? ive searched around a bit and some say you can and some say you cant. will i have to sleeve my block or could i just hone it? or not do anything to it? im planning to turbo in the future, but for now could i get a little more hp by getting the type-s pistons?
From what Ive heard OEM type-s pistons will work but forged ones wont. As for your block it depends on the amount of wear done to your sleeves.
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Re: type-s pistons

I didn't think you could re-sleeve H22s? The FRM liners would have to be removed and replaced...
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Re: type-s pistons

if your going turbo, i wouldn't use type-s pistons as the will increase your compression.
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Re: type-s pistons

I swear, nobody searches anymore.


if you use type s pistons you don't have to sleeve the block, they are OEM pistons. You should have the FRM cylinders honed any time you're replacing the pistons, and or rings, that's just good rule of thumb. (or at least inspected)

If you're planning to turbo why would you use type s pistons? you'll be taking the compression ration from 10:1 to 11:1...

you shouldn't try to use forged pistons in a block with FRM sleeves. The mahle gold series is the only one that you can "safely" use that are forged. I'm still not comfortable with them.
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if you use type s pistons you don't have to sleeve the block, they are OEM pistons. You should have the FRM cylinders honed any time you're replacing the pistons, and or rings, that's just good rule of thumb. (or at least inspected)

If you're planning to turbo why would you use type s pistons? you'll be taking the compression ration from 10:1 to 11:1...

you shouldn't try to use forged pistons in a block with FRM sleeves. The mahle gold series is the only one that you can "safely" use that are forged. I'm still not comfortable with them.
^^^This. Type S pistons as well as any facotry H series piston has weak ring lands. If ur gonna build do it right. Sleeve the Block (which CAN be done on H22's and is pretty much replacing the FRM liners generally speaking) and run low compression pistons with forged rods. Google is ur friend. Try searching plz. Also a BIG word of advice. KNOW WHAT UR GETTING INTO BEFORE U THINK UR GONNA BUILD A MOTOR AND/OR GO TURBO. From the sound of things u do not know much about mechanics and or motor building and that will do nothing but cause u to waste thousands of dollars and blow ur sh1t up. Best of luck
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Re: type-s pistons

thanks guys, ill admit i didnt do that much research. ill stop posting pointless threads
so i want to sleeve my block, get lower comp pistions (around 8:1 to 9:1 for future boost), & rods?
that will give me a few extra hp now and get my bottem end motor ready for boost later?
and i guess i should say im not aiming for anything crazy, its my DD so nothing above 300 hp.
couldnt i just do a complete oem rebuild and not worry about internals with that hp goal?

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you can boost on stock block with 6-8 psi but nothing more because after that you will go boom
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thanks guys, ill admit i didnt do that much research. ill stop posting pointless threads
so i want to sleeve my block, get lower comp pistions (around 8:1 to 9:1 for future boost), & rods?
that will give me a few extra hp now and get my bottem end motor ready for boost later?
and i guess i should say im not aiming for anything crazy, its my DD so nothing above 300 hp.
couldnt i just do a complete oem rebuild and not worry about internals with that hp goal?
the lower compression pistons aren't going to give you any more power until you turbo. In fact you'll most likely lose power
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and i guess i should say im not aiming for anything crazy, its my DD so nothing above 300 hp.
couldnt i just do a complete oem rebuild and not worry about internals with that hp goal?
curious about this as well
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Re: type-s pistons

Boost n reliability don't go together lol. Supercharging is dif but still riskier in comparison to stock. If u want a qwik dd I would rebuild with a fresh hone type s piston n bolt ons. Look at my Sig n u can get some ideas. Ull have plenty of reliable dd power that way
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