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My build + end results

Ok, I bought my Skunk2 Pro2 cams for $650.00. Skunk2 Pro Series Valvetrain(Valve Springs, Valve Spring Base Kit, & Retainers) for $550.00 off ebay. I also replaced my valve seals in order to remove my stock valve spring base, H22 Headbolts(OEM), intake cam plug seal, cam seals(Cam Gear side), and stock OEM Honda headgasket, so all of these are new when I rebuild my H22 head.

Here's my engine setup:

*Engine Mods*
-'96 JDM H22A Engine w/ T2T4 LSD 5spd Trans
-Skunk2 Pro Series cam gears(Titanium)
-Skunk2 Pro Series Stage 2 cams
-Skunk2 Pro Series valve springs + Base kit
-Skunk2 68mm Throttle Body
-Skunk2 retainers
-New OEM Honda valve seals
-H23 Manual Tensioner Conv.
-DIY Wrinkle Red Valve Cover
-NGK Iridium Plugs
-AEM SRI(Red)
-ebay Stainless Steel Header
-2.5" custom piping exhaust
-Apexi WS2 muffler
-Walbro 190lph fuel pump
-Rosko's Thermal 69mm TB gasket
-Rosko's EGR valve block-off plate(EGR Delete)
-Upper IM plenum portmatched
-Blacktrax IAB(delete) IM spacer

*Tuned*
-P28 Chipped ECU w/ Hondata S200

*Drive Train*
-Exedy Stage 1 Organic Clutch kit
-Fidanza 8lbs Flywheel























Stock Valvetrain(Left) VS Skunk2 Pro series(Right):



Empty head:





H22 base kit installed:



Beware guys that you'll need to remove(it'll get damage) the valve seals to get the stock valve spring base out. It's a PITA to remove them!! Use pliers and wiggle them out.

Also, beware that you'll need to tighten up the adjustable cam gears before you turn over the engine. I didn't do that to the exhaust cam gears and left it at 0 degree while I adjusted the intake cam gear to +4(setting recommended by S2) and the exhaust cam gear degree'd itself clockwise maxed out while I was running the motor and starting it up 2-3 times. I was worried that I'd bent some valves but I guess I was fine. Sounded better after zero'ing the exhaust cam gear back into position.

The motor won't idle; it'll shut off if I let go of the gas pedal. Then my neighbor and I adjusted the butterfly to open up more so more air can enter and after messing around with the TB, we were able to make it idle at 1.1K-1.5k and not shut off. But if I go and start it up, I'll have to give it gas to make it fire up.

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I was over at Full Blown Motorsports getting my car tuned:















Dyno'd Vid, My VTEC engages at 5.5K:

I thought I was gonna be near or a little over 200whp, but I guess 187whp will do. My torque is over 150 cause it was at 147wtq when it was 181whp on the dyno.
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Re: My build + end results

I'm going with Mahle 11.5:1 compression pistons, ACL Race bearings, and rods(don't know what brand yet). That should up my whp over 200 easily I guess cause right now I lost tons of power when I'm on the street racing against another H22.

I raced my buddy's JDM H22A BB1 Lude and we were neck to neck after my cam installed. Before that, I would take him 2-3 cars instantly when we do a 40 roll on the highway.

Now I'm gonna go for my bottom end. :D
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niiiceee i love threads like these. those numbers aren't too shabby either. what kinda header/exhaust setup?
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niiiceee i love threads like these. those numbers aren't too shabby either. what kinda header/exhaust setup?
Yeah, numbers aren't too bad consider I'm still stock compression. And at least I'm near 190whp. Once I ordered my new 11.5:1 pistons, etc, I should be over 200whp. But those numbers are nothing compared to when I'm on the street. I'm a little bit slower than before.

I'm using ebay header with stock cat. I also have a 2.5" custom piping exhaust with my Apexi WS2 muffler. I will be getting a Hytech Replica header as well; since, they're proven to gained 10-15whp untuned.
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2.5" should be decent for power, but you might see max gains w/ the hytech + 3" all the way back. maybe
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You're right, 3" piping exhaust should definitely help it alot; even other guys told me so. I heard my WS2 muffler is very restrictive and that I should go with a different style muffler, but I love my WS2. OEM look all the way.

Also, I'm running a AEM SRI. The AEM piping is only 2.25"; I'm planning on going 3" intake piping. Should help also.
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nice man.

I need to get some 3'' exhaust on mine and retune!
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nice man.

I need to get some 3'' exhaust on mine and retune!
Thanks. Me too. I want a 3" exhaust for my setup now. I should've gone that route, but oh well. 2.5" should suit me for now.
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Nice setup! your numbers aren't bad considering your exhaust setup. also did you aske your tuner about that dip I see at about 5500rpms? I see a little more midrange can be gained! :)
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Im confused. WHy on earth did you lose power? Was it the dyno tune?
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Nice setup! your numbers aren't bad considering your exhaust setup. also did you aske your tuner about that dip I see at about 5500rpms? I see a little more midrange can be gained! :)
Thanks. Yeah, thats pretty much all H22s with Pro2s will sit after a tune with stock compression. And no, I should've asked him why there's that dip cause my brother said the same thing about that dip.

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Im confused. WHy on earth did you lose power? Was it the dyno tune?
I'm not sure on that one. I'm debating if it's the dyno or if its something I did during the head build.

I got the car up and running on Friday night, went out and did a few races then Sunday came, and I did a compression check which I got 200psi all across the cyl. So nothing seems wrong with any of my cyl.

The graph shows that I put out 187whp and 150ish wtq, but on the street I'm not that fast as I use to be when I was stock cams.
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nice bro i like the new parts.
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Good work dude, looks nice, and pretty good numbers
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this thread looks kinda familiar.....hmmmm.........
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Nice accord man...I always wanted to put a h22 in my 96.
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question, what'd you set the redline for?
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I gotta go with Neck on this one. Although, I wouldn't tackle any of this until you figure out what's up with that dip in your curve. I'm no expert, but it looks like something is a little off with your IGN timing around the VTEC crossover. But like I said...I'm no expert. And I'm also reallllly drunk.
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I had a smaller dip before tuning... I too would have expected a little more power at the wheels, but dynos do vary... You can go to my tuning thread (linked in sig) to see how simple of a setup gave me 183whp and over 160 ft/lb... with optimum tuning I would expect to see the vtec crossover a little lower as well... mine hits at 4800-5000... but again it could be another factor (though it could contribute to the dip, maybe???)

I too need a hytec replica and 3" exhaust (maybe a flowstack, TB, and IM too?)... gonna be a while though, still broke :(

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hmm im just thinking like what MORE do you need to get over 200.. i mean you already have a fully built head and all bolt on and all this stuff i wouldve thought you should be putting down more power.. hmmm.. but i love accords especially yours.. your avatar and signature are awesome.. it almost makes me want an accord.. but ill stick with the prelude.
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Thanks everyone for your input.

My next move will be rebuild the bottom end. Mahle 11.5:1 pistons, rods, and ACL bearing. That should net me over 200whp on a dynojet.

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That should do er'. Although I guess that's about your only option for pistons other than OEM.
Yup, I don't want to sleeve my motor, and my FRM sleeve looks clean when I got the head off.
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Did you get em' honed?
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Did you get em' honed?
Nope, I have never got them hone.
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Whats up peeps! After some thoughts, I've come to a conclusion that my egay stainless steel header and stock cat is whats holding me back from 190+whp & wtq. So I decided that getting a Hytech Rep header and hi-flow cat will help me see some decent gains. I've seen some Hytech Rep header dyno graphs on H-T, and I'm impress that it puts out some good numbers.

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Then I got my Magnaflow Hi-flow Cat(Direct Fit) the next day:





I'm hoping for 195-200whp after the header & cat install, because I plan on going back to get my car re-dyno & tune but from a different guy whose pretty good at dyno-ing NA cars. So I'll come back with new results guys.
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nice man, ya i wont that header!! lol i know with mine i pulled 202whp and 152 ft lbs.
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Nice whp/wtq numbers.

Yeah, I can't wait to get it install.
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mann, good luck bro. :D clean header. if i ever do NA, hahaha, naww NA 2 slow for me aha, but i Love reading up on this thread, very patiently/rightfully done.
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