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h22a hp variation

hey guys some friend told me that the h22as automatic transmissions come with lower hp than h22a with manual transmission... can anybody tell me something about it?
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Re: h22a hp variation

Yeah, it's like 5 hp.
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Re: h22a hp variation

ok,,, and this restriction its electronic or mechanic i mean in the engine? because i bought an h22a what was with aut. transmission.... how many hp does it have? its an h22a with black valve cover..
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Re: h22a hp variation

thats the h22a4
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Re: h22a hp variation

Every auto transmission takes power away from the wheels to make the slushbox work... Look up how an automatic transmission works and it will explain it all :)
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Re: h22a hp variation

^^Correct.

The difference is in the power lost through the gearbox, not through anything done at the engine or ECU level.
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Re: h22a hp variation

ya, all autos take away power. its because fluid doesnt transfer power as well as a regular tranny
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Re: h22a hp variation

Pretty much. The torque converter (which is in essence little more than a fluid coupling) doesn't transmit 100% of the power, whereas a clutch driven system can.
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Re: h22a hp variation

The magic power from your sword "motor" goes on a mystical journey through spinny land "flywheel", friction valley "clutch", the dragon "transmission", snake pit "cvs", and finally to the princess "road". Along the journey you lose power fighting. Your Super level 5 stage 2 dragon "auto transmission" is a hugh beast that you must fight with to reach the princess. By the time you reach the princess "road" you lost all that power and are probably to tired to even give her a good time.

Does that make sence?
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Re: h22a hp variation

even if it was a 5hp loss in the engine... u wouldnt notice it...
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Re: h22a hp variation

someone should post the link to the thread where the guy dynoed his car before and after a 5speed swap and kept everythin else the same...i cant seem to find it. if i remember right it was a good amount more then 5hp

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this shows that he went from 146hp to 189 hp with a 5speed swap.....with the actual dyno charts
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Re: h22a hp variation

yeah i remember that.
a guy had an auto dynoed and it was only at like 140 or somethin then he did a 5 speed swap and it was dynoed at 195 like its supposed to be.. crazy shiit
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yeah i remember that.
a guy had an auto dynoed and it was only at like 140 or somethin then he did a 5 speed swap and it was dynoed at 195 like its supposed to be.. crazy shiit
hell ya I rememeber that too. I almost couldn't believe it
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someone should post the link to the thread where the guy dynoed his car before and after a 5speed swap and kept everythin else the same...i cant seem to find it. if i remember right it was a good amount more then 5hp

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this shows that he went from 146hp to 189 hp with a 5speed swap.....with the actual dyno charts
That must be on a decently modified car cause i dont think H22's have 189whp stock.
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That must be on a decently modified car cause i dont think H22's have 189whp stock.
one of the 5th gens might, but h22a shouldnt, considering they were only 190 hp. i think? still, if a new civic si puts 190 to the wheels stock, why cant our preludes ;-)

also, WOW big difference on the auto to manual... I heard it was only about 15 percent lost, but 50 horseys is amazing!
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Re: h22a hp variation

yea the only reason it was 189 was cause it wqs the type s head i think...but still thts just to show how much power is lost between auto and manual
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Re: h22a hp variation

manufacturer ratings estimate the ENGINE power. not power to the wheels.

What really kills the acceleration is the fact that the autos have 4 gears, and manuals have 5.

Having an automatic trans is almost like having an f22 tranny. Gears are WAYY longer than they should be for racing.
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True Shoof. I can do 75km/h in first gear, with a bunch of revs up my sleeve still. I don't know what retard thought the gearing had to be so tall in these cars.
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well it was a little more sensible for a motor with at least 50 less hp, and less rpms. The h23 isn't anything too impressive, but back in the early 90's less hp was the way to save gas.
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