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Just wanted to show you guys the pictures, this will sure open up some options for manifolds for us H22 guys...









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wow nice. any proof/dyno plots/comparisons for the K manny??
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any gains? or is skunk2 sttill better to go thru??
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wow, now give me proof that it makes monstrous power!
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o and... would that even fit in our engine bays?? it looks wayyyy too long.
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Re: K Intake manifold on a H22!! Adapter plate

This was in another forum,

Here you guys go. This is a dyno of one of our motors that was making 255hp / 170ish tq. We then tested the RBC with a 74mm tb. Dynos were performed on the same day within a few hours of each other. Yes a loss of 3whp after 7900 RPM but most of the H guys don't rev that high. How about the 16 whp and 13 ft/lbs tq gained at 6300 rpm.



This manifold obviously is not what our particular car needs since we rev our 99 stroke t900o 8700+ I would like to see how it performs on a stock h22 or an h22 that only revs to 7800-7900. One can't argue the fact that it makes a considerable more power before 7900.

And yes I know someone was going to point out the 5500 sampling.. that was due to the fact that we were testing on our race motor and I was trying to clean up the top end after we made the TB change. This is our race car and it doesn't see below 5500 rpms. Just by the graph you can tell it it is a considerable overall gain. The results are by no means tampered with. We actually did all the testing a few hours before we left to go to a race just to see if we could get more out of the car.

Not to mention our S2 manifold utilizes a 78mm TB as opposed to our 72 mm on our RBC for testing purposes. We actually gained 8 hp with the 72mm TB over the stock rsx TB on the RBC manifold.

In conclusion... Is one better then the other? There is no doubt that we need more on top for our motor, but you cannot deny the fact that the S2 lacks considerable midrange due to its design.

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o and... would that even fit in our engine bays?? it looks wayyyy too long.
that's what im wondering. will the fuel rail and all that mount up to it without huge modification?
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o and... would that even fit in our engine bays?? it looks wayyyy too long.
My thoughts exactly. Our bays don't have a whole lot of room in them, especially back between the back of the block and the firewall.

And I don't know if you'd see any gains on a mild N/A build. For FI apps, this would be awesome (assuming it fits). What does a K IM and the adapter plate go for? I'm a cheap bastard so I wouldn't test this on miss Sophie, but I'm curious to see what would happen to our engines with basic bolt ons.

Would be interesting to test out though.
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Re: K Intake manifold on a H22!! Adapter plate

You basicaly run all k series stuff, fuel rail, injectors(that are way better) The RBC manifold is way smaller than the Skunk Manifold and will actualy leave you with more room than a Skunk manifold
The RBC manifold is very similar to the Euro R manifold however Nicer and Cheaper




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The RBC manifold is very similar to the Euro R manifold however Nicer and Cheaper

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how is it nicer than the EuroR manifold?
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Re: K Intake manifold on a H22!! Adapter plate

I guess to me it just looks cleaner, no EGR, no need to block it off, no need for a special fuel rail adapter like the euro r either, perhaps its just my opinion, what do the rest of you think?




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aside from that, where do our vacuum lines hook up?
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Re: K Intake manifold on a H22!! Adapter plate

The RBC has the same amount of bungs coming out of the manifold as the Euro-r, You may need longer hoses or lines but thats easy.

The biggest benefit here is beyond the RBC manifold, with all the research and development going on for the K-series motors we will now have another option that we never had before, the mid-range power increase is huge.
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o and... would that even fit in our engine bays?? it looks wayyyy too long.
my words exactly. even the skunk 2 is a tight fit.
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Take a look at the pics above, there is a pic of the RBC right Next to a Skunk2 manifold, the RBC is 2 1/2 inches shorter, therefor it would give you that much more room between the fire wall. In fact it is also narrower than the skunk2 manifold by just a bit.
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Looks good and its great to see active development on the H22 platform.
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All PM's answered.....

I love to hear what you guys think, your input is always appreciated.

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i would like to see what it can do on a mildly built h22 before i go with this over the EuroR.

EDIT: i would like to see a side by side dyno comparison of a mildly built h22 with EuroR tuned, and the with the K-series tuned. so that we can see if the k really does make more power than the EuroR
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too bad my car revs way past 7200rpm... haha
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Take a look at the pics above, there is a pic of the RBC right Next to a Skunk2 manifold, the RBC is 2 1/2 inches shorter, therefor it would give you that much more room between the fire wall. In fact it is also narrower than the skunk2 manifold by just a bit.
It does look smaller but I'll hold judgment until pics of it installed in a 4g/5g prelude surface. There's not a lot of room back there. Plus, the bend in the runners is different between the 2, the K may be shorter but that doesn't mean something isn't in the way.
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Re: K Intake manifold on a H22!! Adapter plate

This motor consists of an H23 bottom end Blox-B cams stock IM, stock TB, 440Rc injectors and SSR header. We then swapped the OEM manifold set-up with the RBC manifold and a 68mm TB results posted below. We will be testing the difference between the Euro-R and the RBC as well very soon. Pretty impressive gains all over. Sorry it took so long to post...

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Of course it will make large increases if you change out the TB too.
I think what people want is a stock setup with the OEM manifold, EuroR, then this one without tweaking things at all. Put the stock TB on the K-series and dyno it. It will make less power than with the 68mm, but we'd like to see just how it stands stock for stock.
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Just wanted to show the Dyno for the people that heard about it.There are many different comparisons that people want to see, this specific test was done on a customer car that had the stock setup already,there will be more tests to come rest assured. The gains are very impressive no matter how you look at it.
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does anybody know the price of the adapter
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someone should compare this with a stock TB and a EURO with the same setup.
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found the price if yall want to know the price is $237 for the kit which includes the intake manifold adapter, the throttle body adapter that alows you to use a b series throttle body and fuel rail spacers that allow you to use B seies injectors with a k series fuel rail.
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oh and i am wantin to see the skunk2 k series manifold vs the euro on the h22
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found the price if yall want to know the price is $237 for the kit which includes the intake manifold adapter, the throttle body adapter that alows you to use a b series throttle body and fuel rail spacers that allow you to use B seies injectors with a k series fuel rail.

link? my friend has a spare k series intake manifold..so i'm willing to try it..supposed to get it this week to confirm fitment
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it looks like it would fit, I'm wondering how we would support it to make sure its secured as the stock one... also the vacuum lines and other components...
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