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Old 12-12-2008, 10:44 PM
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poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

i poped my 97 prelude in 2nd from 3rd at 110mph. It made the wheels bark realy loud. and the engine started to sound wierd. when i can to a stop the car chuged and stalled out..i already checked the plugs and replaced them. now i start the car and it idles find but i sound like a 5.0 when it sits at a steedy idle. it also shakes really bad. i dont know what it could be. some say timming some say slightly bent rod. i need some help...
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

Y wear ya going 110 in 3rd any way? Lot of stuff could be wrong only way to find out for sure is to take it apart.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

dude i was racing a scion.... yeah im going to take it to a shop monday.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

I did the same thing the first week I owned my 4th gen, I popped from 3rd to second going like 75 or 80... Chirped the tires, RPS went to like 8k and I shifted into neutral quick and nearly shat myself... but I dont think it took any damage.

Check your motor mounts, if your engine is still alive, that kinda torquing stress it puts on the car when it hits really high RPMs coulda snapped a motor mount... maybe....
just a thought.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

you were not doing 110 in 3rd gear..are you boosted and have tall gears?

edited..i just read that this is in a Na thread............what are yours numbers?!?!?!??!?

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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

Well third gear at 110 would be well in the red line, so if dropping it to 2nd, would equal a rev of way over 13k. That could have easily caused a jumped tooth on the timing, or bent a part of the head. I would check your timing.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

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Yeah I don't think that's possible, I think the rev limiter comes in before that, not sure though. Unless you're running a different trannie or some beefy internals...

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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

my jdm h22 does 110 in third without hitting a rev limiter or going into redline

and its stock

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but i never pop it from 3rd to second, cause i rarely ever go that fast.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

For arguments sake.. He was going 85 in 3rd gear. More plausible? Speed is honestly irrelevent and has nothing to do with what happened. The only thing that matters here is the RPMs and how high it was turning.


Good news is.... You bent some valves. Thats not an opinion, moreover, a fact that the stock valvetrain will float a valve above 10k rpms. If you downshifted at redline in 3rd gear, you probably passed 12k rpms.

Do a compression test and possibly a leakdown test to confirm this... But, Im right..

The good news is it can be fixed... Hopefully you can just replace the valves pretty cheap and be on your way.



Check this video out... It could be much worse (or 10x more hilarious)(and yes he toasted the motor shifting 1st to 2nd to 1st again..)


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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

somewhere in your owner manual(or somewhere) it says the max speed @ redline that each gear will go. 2nd is definitely not 110. I think it might be around 50 or so, i havent read it in a while
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yeah 110 is redline on my lude i have an SH. it has dc headers, greedy full exhugst, AEM cold air intake, MSD ignition, and ACT stage 2 clucht. im runing 14.5 at the track. im having some mechanic buddys look at it today but wont know any thing for sure till monday.

yeah and the revlimiter never kicked in it whent way pass 8 for a slight secound.

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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

only takes a fraction of a second.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

the highest you can get to in 3rd gear in a 5th gen is 89 mph before it stops - i have accidentally done it so thats how i know - unless your car is running extremely high gears and sh!t
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

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^ blunt but gets a good point across
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

haha yeah, why would you downshift then anyway?
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the highest you can get to in 3rd gear in a 5th gen is 89 mph before it stops - i have accidentally done it so thats how i know - unless your car is running extremely high gears and sh!t
i guess the j spec motor is different then

i hit 110 @ 7800 rpms. then let off.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

is j spec still the h22a4...what's the difference between the j spec and the us version?
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my plan tho is if i get pulled over, i quickly roll down the windows, and detach the window fuse. that way when they try to catch me riding dirty and press the window button, im like "shoot ms. officer that goes wee oo wee ooo wee, my windows don't work"
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my jdm h22 does 110 in third without hitting a rev limiter or going into redline

and its stock
I don't think that's right. Redline = 7200...
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

i'm confused...
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

Unless it's got some crazy tall[er] gears...I dunno.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

yeah, all this shiz is wack. we need some real facts...
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

okay.... I'm gonna go ahead and believe that he could do 110 in 3rd.

I've tapped 100 in 3rd at under redline, so its not impossible if your shifting at 8200rpm... 4th gen with an h22 (h23 tranny).

But, as stated above, its really not THAT important how fast you were going besides the fact that you exceeded redline by a lot.
Floating valves like the other guy said, do what he said.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

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For arguments sake.. He was going 85 in 3rd gear. More plausible? Speed is honestly irrelevent and has nothing to do with what happened. The only thing that matters here is the RPMs and how high it was turning.


Good news is.... You bent some valves. Thats not an opinion, moreover, a fact that the stock valvetrain will float a valve above 10k rpms. If you downshifted at redline in 3rd gear, you probably passed 12k rpms.

Do a compression test and possibly a leakdown test to confirm this... But, Im right..

The good news is it can be fixed... Hopefully you can just replace the valves pretty cheap and be on your way.





Check this video out... It could be much worse (or 10x more hilarious)(and yes he toasted the motor shifting 1st to 2nd to 1st again..)


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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

I dunno, I still find it kinda hard to believe since one guy said his STOCK H22 hits 110 in 3rd without touching the redline... Unless he's talking Kph.
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

^yeah true dat, maybe hes got 13 inch rims ondabitch and his speedo is nucked up??
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Re: poped my lude from 3rd to 2nd at 110mph

When I run my 17"s at the top of 3rd gear my speedo ain't even close to that fugged up.
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