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H23, 13:1 Compression?

I found some pistons for my H23 that will bump me up to 13:1 compression for an all motor build. Will this work? Is it still daily driveable? What other parts will i need? What octane will i have to run? Anything else you can think of plz mention.
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That's way too high for DD man. I honestly wouldn't push it any further than 11.5:1.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:39 AM
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What company makes pistons for the h23 besides je and wiseco?
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KMS makes them.
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i was researching last night and found out the stroke my h23 is longer than a 22. So if i just raised the compression up to 11:1 or 11.5, i should still achieve the 220 horsepower that the 22 produces right?
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Not necessarily. The H22 has a more aggressive cam and will probably make more power.

I don't think you will make up 35 whp by bumping the compression 2 points.

If you bumped it, camed it, threw in a Supertech valvetrain, and tuned it, you can give an H22 a run for it's money.


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Not sure on what i want. I'm looking for really educated opinions from people who tried it or know about this stuff. cause i dont know which would be best for what i want and what my wallet says i can get. I know all motor is cheaper but it won't give me the power im lookin for. All i want is 300 to the wheels. I thought the 13:1 compression would give me that but i can't run 93 octane with that setup. **** i dont know.
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Not sure on what i want. I'm looking for really educated opinions from people who tried it or know about this stuff. cause i dont know which would be best for what i want and what my wallet says i can get. I know all motor is cheaper but it won't give me the power im lookin for. All i want is 300 to the wheels. I thought the 13:1 compression would give me that but i can't run 93 octane with that setup. **** i dont know.


you have PLENTY of research yet to do if you think this is true.



check out honda-tech.com. they have a SICKKKK FI and all motor section, with PLENTY of knowledgable people that have experience with FI/AM H23's.
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ok... if your looking for 300whp n/a your looking at a ~8-30 grand depending on if you can get parts really cheap. There is a guy on here that is making 250whp on his DD tune and can easily make 300whp if tuned more aggressively. I made a little over 220whp with a really aggressive head build minus building the block.

You want whats best for your wallet? Well let me start off by saying this.... if you want to go n/a and build a 13:1 compression motor? Then I have Custom made CP pistons and rods that I will let go for only $1500. The compression ratio on the pistons are 12.5:1. $1500 dollars and I didn't say anything about cams yet....

Also... at 13:1 compression you won't be able to use pump gas. 12.5:1 compression ratio is where pump gas reaches its limits.
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forced induction or all motor
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wow. ok i feel really slow right now.
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for 300 hp, just boost man. Everyone loves turbo Ludes. :D
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AM? You noob it's NA.

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I came up with an idea, will h22 pistons work in my h23. I was thinking about putting JE 11.5:1 H22 pistons in my 23. I know it will drop to 11:1. Im cool with that but for an all motor setup would that work?
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you can buy my custom made CP 12.5:1 compression ratio pistons and rods I'll have for sale in a few weeks. Brand new never out the bocks ;).
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What are they made for? The 23 or the h22?
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will they work in my h23? Cause plenty of ppl say they wont.
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they won't.... you'll need a h22 for them to work. not to mention get the block sleeved...
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[QUOTE=TopEndLude]ok... if your looking for 300whp n/a your looking at a ~8-30 grand depending on if you can get parts really cheap. There is a guy on here that is making 250whp on his DD tune and can easily make 300whp if tuned more aggressively. QUOTE]
That's me! I guess I'm the N/A king now that ace is selling out :devil:
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Wow but you have the h22. I want to stick with the h23 but put 250 to 300 to the wheels, I dont care how its done now. Whether its turbo or n/a i just want to reach that goal.
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dakilla... the most practical way for you to go is turbo. n/a h23 just will take too much money to make even ~200whp n/a. just way yor options and see what's best. on ia I remember you saying you want it to be daily driven. that kind of power out the 23 is not likely...




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