Honda Prelude Forum

LilMsPrelude · #1 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 10:38 PM

this goes along with my DIY thread about removing the 4th gen (92) dash.Here.

*edit* And Here Is My Technical Write up of the wiring/installation.

If anyone knows anything about me... I tend to go overboard and think things through to the point of ridiculous... and when I get a thought in my mind.. .look out.... :loltard:
I thought I was OCD... come to find out, my therapist tells me I am just a woman! HA!

The way I went about installing my alarm was to study the wirring, routing of, and general consensus of how Honda wires a car... well in 1992 anyways. There was a LOT of split loom and black tape wrapped wires. *Check.*
Wire ties used to secure (look at the yellow split loom...that is factory ABS equipment zip tied to the structure) *Check*
tight quarters and open spaces where an alarm can be found easily...*damn*
Tons of dirt up to 17 years old...*sigh*

well...out comes the dash--- YUP! ripped it right outta there! :bat:
Thank Gawd Jaclynn and Gwen Showed up... I know I would have broke something taking it out had they not.

"officer, I woke up and my car was totalled.. they took the radio and the dash and everything!" :slaphead: LOL!!!!!! :hilarious:

The picture was clear... I was a little fuzzy that day:

After we got back from dinner.... I went out and measured everything and decided where the goodies were gonna go. Then, thank you to insomnia, I prepared as much of the wire as I could.

thats some of my wiring in the split loom behind the ECU... I ran the door locks, door pin sensor, siren, and tachometer sensing wire up through the fender and out under neath the fuse box. You may remember the previous owner had run 4awg welding wire through here? I also placed the horn/siren down in that lil cubby... there is absolutely NO WAY to get to it without removing and fuse panel. I have challenged two peopel to find it, I even set it off so they could hear it, and so far, no one has found the location.

this is the handy little junction box for half of the dash wiring and the door locks etc.

took a break to go say goodbye to my visiting girlfriend...
Say Hello to Ingrid.

Back to work...More split loom and taped wires...in this picture are four of my runs plus three factory. Again, my goal was to completely blend in my install.

The alarm brain and a hint of the starter solenoid block can be seen in this picture.. the solenoid block was secured with zip ties and a hose clamp to the Steering columns support tube.. the alarm brain was a little more difficult. Where it is sitting in this picture is where the speedo and tach gauges reside...by cutting a little of the ABS on the back of the dash, I found I had about 3 inches, give or take, of depth. What this means is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get to from under the dash, BUT, for servicing, I can take out 10 screws, remove the speedo box, and there it is. No, I did not take pictures of it. I'm sharing enough arent I?

LilMsPrelude · #2 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 10:39 PM

ICLEANED, VACUMMED, CLEANED, VACUMMED, CLEANED SOME MORE, and armor alled (s?) a lil bit. took all the HVAC tubing out, and stuck the vacuum hose in anywhere I could to suck out that 17 year old dirt.

ANyways... you can also see in the last picture in my last post, I scraped out all of the old, deteriorated foam rubber tape/gunk and put some new, thicker stuff nack in.. I looked for anywhere that the dash rested on metal, and covered it with foam rubber. I IMMEADIATLY noticed a difference... driving my car on the wonderful Idaho Highways, I didnt have that annoying rattle on the right side of the dash... ever get so mad you just hit it with your closed fist... ya... NO MORE RATTLES and Squeaking from the dash. YAY!

So, with my center console out, the next project was to replace the shift boot. What a pain in the BUT! (__!__)
Odly enough this is the only picture I could find of the old boot:

Here is the console turned upside down... two screws and carefully pry it up:

and it pops out.

two rings pressure fit together and secured with staples

out they come and

here is a shot of the old nastiness, and the new hotness

If there ever was a time to be ambidextrious, this woudl be it... hold the boot, top ring on the outside and then work the inside ring inside the boot and all the while keeping the corners lined up.

5 tries and you finally get this....

I put the staples back in, being VERY careful not to let anything slip apart, then where the extra material flapped over, I applied some spray glue

nice n clean and very secure.

I had to put it back in the console to see my finished work:

(I figure this is the perfect time to mold the "beauty ring" around my head unit so this will of course come back out until that's finished.)

LilMsPrelude · #3 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 10:42 PM

I've got just one more problem....

which one?

Carbon Fiber?

or gloss black and chrome?

spaz666lude · #4 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 11:04 PM

carbon fiber it will match the boot btw great write up to actually wire th alarm is it difficult to find the correct factory wiring?

Lazer · #5 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilMsPrelude

I've got just one more problem....

which one?

Carbon Fiber?

or gloss black and chrome?

IMO, the carbon fiber would look much better with that boot. but thats just my .02

LilMsPrelude · #6 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 11:47 PM

and a wealthy $0.02 it is sir... LOL!

I havent finished it yet... but I WILL be posting the wiring diagrams and locations of all the wires you need to install a (DEI) alarm... since our cars are mostly the same, it should help you guys a lot! I already did the hard work.. now I just have to put it together, technically, so it makes sense.

LilMsPrelude · #7 (**permalink**) 05-27-2009, 11:49 PM

I have a few more random photos of some other stuff I did while it was apart.

Remember this dent?

it's getting better:

need some body working tools now to get out the little dents, etc.

where did all thos wires go?

it is remarkable how much dirt the camera can find.. sitting in the drivers seat, this area looked pretty clean

It's getting there:

A radar detector was mounted up here.. I enlarged one of the bolt holes and instlaled the alarms L.E.D.

the other one will house the power for my GPS Bluetooth Antenna , The other hole where the XM Radio was (look close at the previous picture) is where I am going to mount a "cradle" for my PDA Phone.

time to start designing the demise of that map pocket.

twokexlv6coupe · #8 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 01:06 AM

g'dammnnnnn can i fly you out to jersey to do mine!??!!?

azn13oi90 · #9 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 07:11 AM

for the squeaking i remember taking out the console and just sticking those taped foam ( iono I got it from something in my house.. maybe can be found in a arts and craft store.. sort of like the foam for your ac for the house but a lot thinner on the edges) and that would make the console pieces not "rub" on each other and when you put it back I just ran my trusty knife on the lines to get any excess foam sticking out... I placed this foam tape even on that 3rd brake light on top of the rear passengers .. because of the noise they cause.. now my cars silent.. all I hear occasionally is the seat belts hitting the side panels.. and only my music hehehe

abelsgotspeed · #10 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 09:16 AM

thats pretty cool dude. i got to clean the crap inside my car as well. lol

LilMsPrelude · #11 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn13oi90

for the squeaking i remember taking out the console and just sticking those taped foam ( iono I got it from something in my house.. maybe can be found in a arts and craft store.. sort of like the foam for your ac for the house but a lot thinner on the edges) and that would make the console pieces not "rub" on each other and when you put it back I just ran my trusty knife on the lines to get any excess foam sticking out... I placed this foam tape even on that 3rd brake light on top of the rear passengers .. because of the noise they cause.. now my cars silent.. all I hear occasionally is the seat belts hitting the side panels.. and only my music hehehe

that is a good idea... anytime you add mass to a plastic panel it will help reduce it's resonant frequency. I did buy some of the thinner foam rubber tape just for the console areas that rub together... and two hard surfaces touching eachother are bound to make noise, and our cars have a LOT of plastic.

I almost have the wiring info written up and will be posting it soon... this dang 8 hour a day job gets in the way of my personal entertainment.

LilMsPrelude · #12 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe

g'dammnnnnn can i fly you out to jersey to do mine!??!!?

LOL!

Will you buy me dinner too????

twokexlv6coupe · #13 (**permalink**) 05-28-2009, 07:23 PM

even better.... home-cooked italiano

LilMsPrelude · #14 (**permalink**) 05-29-2009, 12:07 AM

It has started... you can click here for my technical write up of the wiring/installation

oltsp · #15 (**permalink**) 11-20-2009, 01:26 PM

nice job

ReDrAiL3R · #16 (**permalink**) 01-28-2010, 11:56 PM

Cool! :)

Jorvax · #17 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 07:27 PM

YOU ARE DA-BEST!
Thought I was too Ob-Cee about my DEI Clifford 50.7x 2-way RS/Alarm install (a month ago). This, LilMsPrelude makes me wanna redo my back-breaking, head aching, hand cuts all over, cussing while crimping-twisting-soldering-routing and talking to my Prelude like I was in solitary confinement for years (LOLs!!!)
Btw, mine is working all well but with "just" an issue. I am having the 7 light flashes (or 7 clicks from the relay inside the main/brain module. Dunno if it's my tach wire lead misconnected; but I already fixed that with the help of the "blue wire" in the service port by the (R) Shocks or whatnot?
I am looking forward to reading and following your technical thread... I might find the answer for my RS issue. I believe you can give me the answer now, but, I don't want to be spoon-fed (sometimes I do;D) so I will be teaching myself to crawl, walk, then run my way thru this. I hope you're close by so I can be dusted off of my fall.
ILOVEYOU! (Sorry I am married) LOLssss:P
Do you still need to be reped up? OK rep 4u!

LilMsPrelude · #18 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 10:09 PM

I'm here to help if I can....

dbd6604 · #19 (**permalink**) 05-25-2010, 10:52 PM

You're like the female RyWire.

Dunno how I never came across this before. Makes me wanna redo all the wiring in my car.

Jorvax · #20 (**permalink**) 05-27-2010, 02:31 AM

I need your help now, LilMsLude:(
I used up my thinking cap and still can't figure out how to make the RS feature of my Clifford 50.7x to work. I did not use the 5-pin RS aux output cuz, IMO it's not needed or I don't have a need for it as of now and I did not use it even on my '05 Xterra - RS/Security on her works perfect.
Do I need some kind of remote start module for our 4th gens, Miss? I have one location for ground but, it's not the one you showed by the "center hump bolt". Connected the Neutral Safety lead wire to the hand break negative wire/switch. I even have my BitWriter to help me configure it easier than listening to phackin' beeps on the 2-way remote. What am I doing wrong here? I was like a grasshopper & did put my nose real close to the screen and I think we have same pinouts on the main/brain security system.
- - sigh:(

LilMsPrelude · #21 (**permalink**) 05-28-2010, 06:15 PM

The Rem STart in our Preludes is a mystery. It is one of my pet projects for the summer.

there is somehting in our ignition system that prevent's it from working, I have re-wired mine three times to just make sure I hade every single little connection correct. Some circuit, somewhere, is not being energized.

I promise you will be the first to know when I break it down and figure this bugger out.

aka: also at the same time I am going to figure out a way to make a keyless start for our Cars.

ogsmakdade · #22 (**permalink**) 05-28-2010, 06:45 PM

great thread, never seen it before.

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