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Old 12-27-2013, 01:49 AM
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Vacuum hose

Where's does the bottem port behind the im goes to? My last post was locked out without an answer. It's a jdm intake manifold and it is not in the service guide. Only the usdm intake mani shows and it's not the same, even the option to put it relativity the same is not there. It was hooked up to something before but I can't find it. Please help
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Re: Vacuum hose

Is your car running ok?
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Re: Vacuum hose

There's all kinds of fun stuff that uses vacuum to function; the brake booster, cruise control, the map sensor, stock intake resonator...I know there's a vacuum diagram floating around in a couple different threads on here.. Even though you may have a little bit different vacuum setup, at least you'll get an idea of what might not be hooked up.

If your car is running fine and you can't find any missing connection, cap those suckers off.
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Re: Vacuum hose

Cruise control, starting air valve, or EGR control solenoid... There is a small box under your manifold.. If it bugs you very much, make sure ther is a line going to it. It may have just come undone.
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Re: Vacuum hose

I have an idle surge for a min once in a while, and I throw a code one a week on the p0505 idle air control. I've been hunting for what I'm missing, can't find it
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And I have an avg idle of 900-1300
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I have an idle surge for a min once in a while, and I throw a code one a week on the p0505 idle air control. I've been hunting for what I'm missing, can't find it
Surges when it's cold? May be your FITV needs tightening.
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Re: Vacuum hose

X2 ^^^


Try hondahookups.com.
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Re: Vacuum hose

Surge when cold or warm. Does it once every 60 miles, prob 3 or 4 times a week, only for a duration of a minute. I'm going to do an idle relearn tomorrow, clean iacv and tighten that fitv, will let u know how it goes
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Re: Vacuum hose

Bleed your coolant before you do any of those things... Make sure your rad cap is working properly, sometimes it will let fluid out, but not in.
I would buy new rad cap, bleed coolant, and from there see how things move.

Is there nothing connected to that orifice on your manifold ? Or did you plug it up in the meantime ?
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Re: Vacuum hose

It surges because you have a vacuum leak. Take a piece of hose and loop those two nipples on the backside of your intake manifold.


Since you've already checked through the service manual - I assume you've already confirmed that everything else (required on a usdm spec h22) is already connected properly. (all in assumption you have a stock car)

small intake manifold lines;

cruise control (round unit next to fusebox)
intake bypass valve (plastic box behind battery attached to factory intake)
intake manifold bypass valve (plastic box beneath manifold runners)
egr solenoid (cylinder type piece mounted on a metal bracket on the drivers shock tower)
bypass diaphragm (little round unit on front of manifold - drivers side - goes to box beneath manifold)


Again, I recommend just looping the two nipples with a piece of hose. Take the troubleshooting from there.
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Again, I recommend just looping the two nipples with a piece of hose. Take the troubleshooting from there.
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Re: Vacuum hose

Thank for the input, I bleed the coolant when I swapped the head, I cleaned the iac and cleaned/slightly tighten the fitv, after 2 drive cycles the light came back on. I'm going to loop both the lines in the rear, going to identify all the sensors and vac lines using the usdm diagram and hopefully it's all accounted for. I'll keep in touch
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Re: Vacuum hose

alright, I got on my in.honda.com site, printed sum info that might help me and others (as you see theres 2 ports on the side of the intake mani and one in the back, I have 2 in the back and 1 on the side. wish I was easy as swapping the hose around but the option is not there, ill work on it this weekend and post pics on what I have.



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Re: Vacuum hose

Hopefully you're aware that's not a USDM H22a4 intake manifold diagram.

Now on any diagram you look up - 97/98 have a different vacuum setup vs a 99-01 due to the charcoal canister configuration. CDM models and JDM models differ as well.

Here is a 97/98 setup;

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I have a 96 engine tho :/,and it is a h22 diagram. I got all diagrams from 96-99. I know the charcoal canisters are different, so is that vacuum hose before the tb on top, the starting air valve, etc etc. I'm just trying to see what I'm working with, haven't looked into it much on what I have until the weekend comes. It's a 96 jdm engine with obd2, stock jdm intake mani is one I haven't seen online but it's similar to the newer ones .
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I have a 96 engine tho :/,and it is a h22 diagram. I got all diagrams from 96-99. I know the charcoal canisters are different, so is that vacuum hose above the tb


Engine may be a 96, but your car is a 98. So OBD2 and evap is all in the car still (from my assumption, since you never mentioned anything more than a jdm manifold - which generally means you have a jdm swap)


Which is why I mentioned you need to only make sure the listed items are at some point connected to a vacuum source off the intake manifold. As long as they are, you can cap or loop the remaining nipples.


All, as I said in my first post, in assumption you have a stock car (stock meaning no intake or anything that alters the vacuum lines) just follow the diagram for the necessary items and you'll be fine.



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Also, your diagram looks to be an h23a - judging by the oil cap location. tossing that extra bit of info out there

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Re: Vacuum hose

I just purchased a set from eBay(tm). The package says, "Universal High Temp Silicone Hose Kit". It is billed as High Quality, Durable 3A Racing Silicone Hoses. Use anywhere High Temperature and oil resistant lines are required. Kit includes 10-feet of both 4mm & 6mm hose and 6-feet of 8mm hose. Kits are sold in Red, Yellow, or Blue. UPC code 757116920378. made in Korea for "American Auto Accessories, Inc." It is not made in the USA don't we make silicone too. Hummmm
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We probably make it. But the nsa is buying it all.
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I just purchased a set from eBay(tm). The package says, "Universal High Temp Silicone Hose Kit". It is billed as High Quality, Durable 3A Racing Silicone Hoses. Use anywhere High Temperature and oil resistant lines are required. Kit includes 10-feet of both 4mm & 6mm hose and 6-feet of 8mm hose. Kits are sold in Red, Yellow, or Blue. UPC code 757116920378. made in Korea for "American Auto Accessories, Inc." It is not made in the USA don't we make silicone too. Hummmm
Most silicone hoses will collapse after heated and vacuum is applied. Keep an eye on them and be aware of the issues.
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