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Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

No, not spare tire removal. But JUST as easy! haha. It's one of those things you might as well do anyways while replacing a vital part.

Next time you need a battery, get a Honda FIT battery from Honda to run in your Prelude instead. $120-$140 and still has 350cca, still more than enough for a Prelude 2.0-2.3L. Not only that you get a 60 month (5 year) warranty.

Obviously if you have a legit sound system you need a legit battery, but this is great for people who would rather strip out unnecessary weight and focus on performance of their car without having to shell out so much money.

Proven on a scale to be 30lbs lighter than the typical size battery for an H22, which is just a boat anchor. Furthermore, it will do more good than dropping the same $ amount on a short ram intake.
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Re: Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

but if you live in cold place its not necessarily wise to get "smaller" lightweight battery. your car might not start at winter time some "nice day"
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Re: Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

Yeah no good if you don't have a block heater especially...my lude doesn't...fff. I might be getting one for a bargain though so I can just switch back to my bigger one for the winter time.

Although I have heard some having success and not noticing a difference. But in extreme weather sometimes not even the biggest batteries for our cars will work hence the need to plug in teh blawk heetr.
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Re: Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

Ex lax. Easiest 30lbs lost ever.
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Tell that to the guy I might get the battery off of. He even showed me.

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a lighter batter is a very commonly done thing.....
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At the cost of functionality. You need a strong battery. Oddysey (minivan) battery is the preferred choice.
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Re: Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

In Florida, plenty of cca year round. Montana, maybe not.
I'd never considered a smaller battery.
So tell me, how will you clamp it? I suppose the oem system would hold it, right?
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At the cost of functionality. You need a strong battery. Oddysey (minivan) battery is the preferred choice.


I'll bet if the two of yall put your heads together you'd end up with 550cca from watch batteries all strapped together and tucked inside the glove compartment somehow.
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Yeah it's commonly done but not many know it can be done for half the cost and no modification/brain use. And not cheap wal-mart chit with little to no warranty either. Just bringing to light a "mod" that actually does something to someone who wants to get a bit more from their mostly stock Prelude.

If battery tech is advancing so much why are cars still running boat anchors. Surely all that hybrid lithium ion battery gadgetry should have some use other than in a hybrid car and/or Apple products.

To tie it down I think Phoenix1234 would have something to say on that. Apparently Preludes tend to not come with tie downs but have the mounting points and/or holes for one. Maybe look for the stock mounting points see what you can do with those. If none, look into velcro. Which would probably work better if the battery was relocated to the trunk. Not sure how velcro would hold up under the hood.
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I'll bet if the two of yall put your heads together you'd end up with 550cca from watch batteries all strapped together and tucked inside the glove compartment somehow.
There is a ultra capacitor mod on youtube that eliminates a battery altogether buuuut, most installs look Robinson Carusoe in fact, you could use the same scooter battery (from my mona thread)to start the car then the alternator will charge the capacitors. You eliminate the weight and size, and only need a battery box in the trunk.
Weight distribution> weight reduction all day long,
And there are a whole ton of gurus up in here, electronics doesn't change much, lol
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Drag racing or DD'ing weight reduction works the best for an NA honda. What I'd do is lose the weight then if needed add a sandbag in the trunk and/or passenger seat when you want to level it out for twisties. Can more easily choose where the weight goes that way.

The Bugatti Veyron actually requires some weight to the chassis in order to achieve the speeds it does along side its shape. I only learned that recently. Till then I was part of the dumb group calling it a fat pig that could go faster if it shed some weight.
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There's a fine line between weight loss and neutral handling. You want your FFWD car to Be as close to 50/50 with out losing the traction benefits. Most people who know look for a 55/45 with a traction bar to get all the benefits. A battery (unless centered in the middle of the car in the second row) would not really change anything in terms of weight reduction.

100lbs = 1/10th a second in a quarter mile.
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Yeah it's commonly done but not many know it can be done for half the cost and no modification/brain use. And not cheap wal-mart chit with little to no warranty either. Just bringing to light a "mod" that actually does something to someone who wants to get a bit more from their mostly stock Prelude.

If battery tech is advancing so much why are cars still running boat anchors. Surely all that hybrid lithium ion battery gadgetry should have some use other than in a hybrid car and/or Apple products.

To tie it down I think Phoenix1234 would have something to say on that. Apparently Preludes tend to not come with tie downs but have the mounting points and/or holes for one. Maybe look for the stock mounting points see what you can do with those. If none, look into velcro. Which would probably work better if the battery was relocated to the trunk. Not sure how velcro would hold up under the hood.

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There is a ultra capacitor mod on youtube that eliminates a battery altogether buuuut, most installs look Robinson Carusoe in fact, you could use the same scooter battery (from my mona thread)to start the car then the alternator will charge the capacitors. You eliminate the weight and size, and only need a battery box in the trunk.
Weight distribution> weight reduction all day long,
And there are a whole ton of gurus up in here, electronics doesn't change much, lol
I figured you'd know the circuitry part and josh would know how to hide it and make it look cool if you do find it in the spare tire compartment.

Throw daryl, 13 and lil m in there and you guys could end up with a system so lighweight, the car would owe you a pound or two due to all the weight savings.
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Run 2 6 volt golf cart batteries in series in the rear foot wells, for perfect distribution, the power can be shut off just by reaching over and hitting the racing kill switch, and low center of gravity to improve handling.

Man, sometimes i get an itch to make another 4WS time attack car. Lol
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Man, sometimes i get an itch to make another 4WS time attack car. Lol


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Yeah it's commonly done but not many know it can be done for half the cost and no modification/brain use. And not cheap wal-mart chit with little to no warranty either. Just bringing to light a "mod" that actually does something to someone who wants to get a bit more from their mostly stock Prelude.

If battery tech is advancing so much why are cars still running boat anchors. Surely all that hybrid lithium ion battery gadgetry should have some use other than in a hybrid car and/or Apple products.


To tie it down I think Phoenix1234 would have something to say on that. Apparently Preludes tend to not come with tie downs but have the mounting points and/or holes for one. Maybe look for the stock mounting points see what you can do with those. If none, look into velcro. Which would probably work better if the battery was relocated to the trunk. Not sure how velcro would hold up under the hood.
It takes more brain use than your average 'lude owner seems to have.... As mentioned, colder climates need more cca and overall a battery that will power the car while not being charged and not die on you in stop and go traffic....

It actually doesn't help as much as you would think. For a daily car, your alternator is working a little more...

Most modern hybrid car batteries end up failing more often, because the tech isn't really that great at all when it comes to the automotive industry. You can't expect much for a typical car anyway.

Velcro would not hold a battery. Unless you mean to be using it as a strap - and still even then, you would need some place to tie it down.

On a side note - NEVER install a battery within the car unless it is A) sealed, or B) in a sealed battery box with an outside vent tube. And keep it on plastic in the event it leaks....

Stock tie-downs are re-useable. How else are stock batteries held down from the factory? If you have holes but no tie-down, order one from Honda....

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Drag racing or DD'ing weight reduction works the best for an NA honda. What I'd do is lose the weight then if needed add a sandbag in the trunk and/or passenger seat when you want to level it out for twisties. Can more easily choose where the weight goes that way.

The Bugatti Veyron actually requires some weight to the chassis in order to achieve the speeds it does along side its shape. I only learned that recently. Till then I was part of the dumb group calling it a fat pig that could go faster if it shed some weight.
Weight reduction has many benefits such as fuel economy and if you go overboard, a little extra freed up power. Hope you don't have any kind of system... otherwise your "gain" is not doing you any good.

The Veyron needs to have the entire chassis rebuilt every so many miles due to how it was made. Being lighter does cause more harm than good in some cases. Also take into consideration that if a car such as the Veyron were to be too light, at higher speeds, without enough downforce, it would easily flip.

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There's a fine line between weight loss and neutral handling. You want your FFWD car to Be as close to 50/50 with out losing the traction benefits. Most people who know look for a 55/45 with a traction bar to get all the benefits. A battery (unless centered in the middle of the car in the second row) would not really change anything in terms of weight reduction.

100lbs = 1/10th a second in a quarter mile.
Exactly!

5th gens are actually lacking weight in the rear right side of the car. So for us, relocating the battery to that point actually helps distribution.


I'm about a 60/40 (i think, need another corner weight printout) on a daily basis. But can easily manipulate the weight around if I needed to.

Having a corner weight done helps when trying to set a car up for whatever

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I figured you'd know the circuitry part and josh would know how to hide it and make it look cool if you do find it in the spare tire compartment.

Throw daryl, 13 and lil m in there and you guys could end up with a system so lighweight, the car would owe you a pound or two due to all the weight savings.




I know of a few places to locate .....things lol. half size batteries can fit in the fender well under the intake, or under the existing battery tray. (even on the rear crossmember). Brackets are made to mount in either location. Brian found a way to relocate his within the quarter panel with access from the trunk.
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unless its RHD, a lighter battery would further off set the already lop sided weight distribution... to bad the h22 isnt flipped 180 degrees with the tranny on the drivers side, it would make for a BA ram intake
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unless its RHD, a lighter battery would further off set the already lop sided weight distribution... to bad the h22 isnt flipped 180 degrees with the tranny on the drivers side, it would make for a BA ram intake



You mean flipped like a k series?

And fight the exhaust manifold? no thanks lol
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Re: Relatively cheap weight savings of 30 lbs.

I love my 15lb battery! The 170CCa's it has started for me every time through the winter.
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Pics man! Or at least manufacturer and group no. This 170cca battery interests me, lol
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Pics man! Or at least manufacturer and group no. This 170cca battery interests me, lol
It is the odyssey extreme 25, I had to get a custom tie down to keep it in place. I'll add a pic soon for ya.
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Yessssssss. I know that company. MY GMC has the 1500 series group 34/78 posts. Them batteries are bananas. Their 200cca is like 400 for everyone else, lol! Sears is using odysseys as their platinum series and a some without the warranty...

And for the record, the car battery is one of the most important 40-50 lbs a car must have, next to the gas and Oil. Getting a small battery is good, but there is a reason why it came with the car in the first place.
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I plan to clean everything up and attach some quick connect battery tender cables to it soon too. That way it wont die in my garage during the winter.





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Yep! in my 1/0 awg tread, i used military terminals so I can mount trickle chargers with terminal rings. Better than what I had. And those copper alligator clips corrode.
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