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Old 03-15-2013, 07:46 PM
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I could get a whole f****** engine for that

long story short, I rebuilt my engine at 207k just for the experience of it, got a port and polish on the head, resurfaced all the valves, ran strong for 20k, then my CEL came on for my o2, ran rough, replaced o2, ran rougher, compression test gave me 20 lbs on cylinder 2, assumed it was a blown headgasket, couldn't get the crank bolt off so I had a mechanic do the rest of the work and he said the low comp was from a chip in one of the valves (?) and quoted me $1850 to fix everything, an i'm not going to do that. So should I..
A) put this in there H22A OBD 2 DOHC VTEC Engine only 97+ - Engine only - Honda & Acura
B) get a new head
C) sell the car
keep in mind that before this my alternator was going out and I had a serious oil leak behind my block that I was almost positive it was a faulty headgasket. I'm leaning towards getting a new engine but can I get some more opinions? thanks
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Re: I could get a whole f****** engine for that

if buying another head will solve ur issues why not do that? would be cheaper than buying another engine
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if buying another head will solve ur issues why not do that? would be cheaper than buying another engine
right, theres this guy near me selling a whole engine with a broken rod, 2001 HONDA H22 VTEC HEAD, and I was thinking about doing that but I dont want that to not work as I have no idea what condition that head is in, plus my parents said they would help out some with the cost of, lets say, a JDM type S engine. I personally would like to get that engine, take off the head, get it resurfaced, throw it back on and call it a day but after all the crap I have gone through in the last year I just wonder if it would be cheaper and better in the long run to throw in a whole new engine...
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Re: I could get a whole f****** engine for that

whatever youre going to do: rebuild it anyway

why dont you rebuild your own head with your friends?
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whatever youre going to do: rebuild it anyway

why dont you rebuild your own head with your friends?
because I never did any work on my head when I did my rebuild, and I'm really pressed for time and I would much rather have a mechanic do it. Why if I bought engine should I rebuild it?
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Why if I bought engine should I rebuild it?
always if someone asks my opinion.

you never gonna know how long the engine has been in some warehouse and during that time all the rubber seals have dry out and then they leak if you dont replace them

AND you dont know how beaten the engine really is so its wise to replace clutch, timing parts, ignition parts, bearings and piston rings (+ every seal/gasket)...

my swap engine was this legend "60k" one too and soon after swap it started to leak oil from everywhere and 2 weeks ago I got call from machine shop (Im replacing piston rings/changing pistons right now) that this blocks cylinders are kinda "oval shaped" so I have to sleeve it if I want to use it again.....I bought another block so now we're trying this build with it

"Swap engines are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
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always if someone asks my opinion.

you never gonna know how long the engine has been in some warehouse and during that time all the rubber seals have dry out and then they leak if you dont replace them

AND you dont know how beaten the engine really is so its wise to replace clutch, timing parts, ignition parts, bearings and piston rings (+ every seal/gasket)...

my swap engine was this legend "60k" one too and soon after swap it started to leak oil from everywhere and 2 weeks ago I got call from machine shop (Im replacing piston rings/changing pistons right now) that this blocks cylinders are kinda "oval shaped" so I have to sleeve it if I want to use it again.....I bought another block so now we're trying this build with it

"Swap engines are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
yep i totally agree, and its not like ur getting a "new" engine. its a used 1 but if u have rebuilt urs, then just replace the head, get type S internals for the head, cams, valves, springs, and might as well get it polished as well and call it a day
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Re: I could get a whole f****** engine for that

Im going through this as well and when i see my block internals, if they're still good I will just rebuild a new head. I vote for head and guts rebuild with type s goodies would be cheaper than getting a true type s and rebuilding all that...
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Re: I could get a whole f****** engine for that

fix it yourself, or take it back to whoever did it the first time, your gonna want to rebuild the other engine when you buy it anyway because you dont know the condition of the engine your buying.

a little story

my dad took one of his cars to a shop hes been going to since i was a little kid.
he needed the 2 front wheel bearings replaced, they were hub bearings

they told him it would be $1000 give or take to replace, which included parts, they said $230 a piece for the wheel bearings, timken.


i told him thats insane, ill do it for you. i got the same timken wheel bearings from autopartswarehouse for $110 a piece, total of $220.
i did the work myself, so still only $220

my dad saved $780.

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Thanks for all the input, yea im going to go and take a look at some heads tomorrow
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Re: I could get a whole f****** engine for that

When going to look at heads how do I know all the valves and everything is good on it? A guy says he just got his head back from the machine shop, freshly resurfaced an cut valves with paperwork to prove it but I have a hard time taking peoples word these days...
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When my 4th Gen got wrecked and I was forced to get the 3rd Gen I promised to myself that I would NEVER take her to a mechanic, and starting off with almost nil experience I've done everything on my lude solely with the help of these pz boys. Rebuild it yourself buddy. "I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car than win by an inch because someone else built it for me"
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When going to look at heads how do I know all the valves and everything is good on it? A guy says he just got his head back from the machine shop, freshly resurfaced an cut valves with paperwork to prove it but I have a hard time taking peoples word these days...
It'd be pretty hard to lie about new exhaust valves being in there if they were not new, I'm sure it would be pretty obvious, a compression test is the main way to test valves and seats i think
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Exhaust valves are bigger then intake right?
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I've done everything on my lude solely with the help of these pz boys. Rebuild it yourself buddy. "I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car than win by an inch because someone else built it for me"
Amen brutha!!!

I also have a mechanic I can trust. He gives me good prices and great service. Sometimes it's just better to take it to pro. (Note the word pro)
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I already did a complete rebuild by myself and all the other work (clutch, suspension, leaks, adjustments) i have done by myself, this will be the first time ever I have had a mechanic do the work for me and its solely because I am pressed for time and I don't have all of the tools that I did when I do the rebuild. where I live you cant just go out and rent a torque wrench.
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Exhaust valves are bigger then intake right?
The exhaust is bigger
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When going to look at heads how do I know all the valves and everything is good on it? A guy says he just got his head back from the machine shop, freshly resurfaced an cut valves with paperwork to prove it but I have a hard time taking peoples word these days...
go to that machine shop and ask?
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