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Update on my Prelude

So guys, as some of you may remember, my car took a **** in November and well, it's been sitting ever since. I've put a bunch of hours into it over the past 3 days, found what caused the problem. The teeth on the inside of the crank pulley wore down to the point where they weren't gripping the crankshaft any more. This in turn caused the timing to jump a few teeth, and bent a valve(s) on cylinder number 1. Guess I should count my lucky stars since I've still got 170 psi on cylinders 2/3/4. Just ordered all new oem valves, springs, retainers, seals, seats, guides, head gasket, etc to replace everything in cylinder number 1. Hopefully it's only 1 bent valve so I can return all the extra stuff and get the majority of my money back haha. Since the cars sitting, I decided to rebuild the rear brakes, put on new clappers and pads, and fix the exhaust system (FINALLY it will be quiet haha) so the car will be rearing to go once I actually get it running.

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Re: Update on my Prelude

Ryt on.
I remember the thread. November? Wow it seemed like 3 weeks ago on my end.

Better brakes is $ well spent!!
Quiet: the new loud.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Haha before I fixed the exhaust, we started it and it ran super rough at about 200 rpms, sounded like a fuxxing helicopter taking off. Now its quiet as a mouse, and when it runs, no more cel for secondary 02 sensor. That light has been haunting my dreams for years.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

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Quiet: the new loud.


I need to tell this to my 135dB exhaust






Good to hear the news!
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Re: Update on my Prelude

I just want to drive itttttt so badly haha.
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I know that feel! Two more months till I can drive mine...

it hasn't been that bad for me this year though since I got another lude to drive during winter months. Year round luding FTW. I miss vtec though.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Figured I'd give you guys an update while I'm taking a dump at work. Tore the head off, both exhaust valves on cylinder #1 were bent, guides were still perfect, replaced valves and reassembled the motor. Got 170 psi (cold) across the board for compression which I'm very satisfied with. Cylinder walls looked brand new even with 200k miles on them so I didn't touch the block. The problem I'm having though is that the car is coughing/sneezing (accompanied by what sounds like the ac compressor kicking on, but its not the ac compressor, I have no idea what the hell this noise is) every few seconds while it idles, and we can't figure out what the hell is causing it. The motor is also vibrating a lot more than it did before, which leads me to believe that something is not lined up properly on the timing belt side. Tooth off on the crank, balancer shafts misaligned, faulty manual tensioner are my 3 guesses. Anyone else got any ideas?
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Re: Update on my Prelude

So its not idling correctly?

Double, triple, and quadruple check the timing belt, I bet its off by a tooth or two.
Leave the b-shaft belt off firstly so you can narrow it down to the t-belt to start with.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Clicking noise random?
Do you have fresh gasoline? Fuel filter?
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Like I had suspected, we were still off a tooth on the crankshaft. We checked it a million times, but I guess it took a million and 1 lol. Also noticed that the oil pump shaft wasn't lined up properly with the alignment mark on the pump housing so we got that straightened out. Started her up and she purrs like a kitten again. Have to put a new timing belt on her today, the old one has 200k miles on it so it's stretched quite a bit and I'm not comfortable driving it with that much slack in the belt. The only thing left to figure out is where this oil leak is coming from. It seems to be coming from the rear passenger side of the motor somewhere, but I can't seem to pinpoint it. It's puking a pretty good amount of oil onto the floor while the motor runs. Any ideas where exactly I should be looking?
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Re: Update on my Prelude

If it's the rear of the motor.... oil cooler o-ring

If its dripping from between the block and tranny.... rear main seal.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Those are the first two places I looked, definitely didn't look like it was the oil cooler, didn't seem like it was coming from between the block and trans either. The big project for tonight is figuring out that damn leak
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Got flexible flash light.
My mechanic has a 3' flexi lens on a movie camera.
That thing could find bill clinton's virginity.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Maybe a lil bit higher than?
Cam seals/dizzy o-ring?
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It's not the dizzy. It's looking like it may be the plastic cam cap on the intake cam. I'll let it run tomorrow and watch it and hope that's it haha
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Also it seems like there is an excessive amount of slack even with the new timing belt, is there a trick to getting more tension besides the procedure in the helms?
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I know that feel! Two more months till I can drive mine...

it hasn't been that bad for me this year though since I got another lude to drive during winter months. Year round luding FTW. I miss vtec though.
lucky! i need a winter lude... my winter car is a lowly little echo...
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Oil puking everywhere solved by putting the head gasket on the RIGHT way. Can't believe we fawking did that.
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ROFL you put it on upside down, didn't you?
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Doh!!!

Glad ya got it.
Oil/Coolant leak thread seemed to appear out of no where just for you my man.
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Old 03-08-2013, 03:25 PM
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Haha I had a feeling we had it on there bass ackwards but my uncle refused to believe. She's all back together but we have to retime it again, somehow were off a tooth AGAIN. Oh well haha
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Re: Update on my Prelude

You had it in time. Then it's off a tooth. You correct it, r&r the gasket and...Then it's off a tooth again.
Hmmm. Is there are tension issue? Is your belt slipping?
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Re: Update on my Prelude

It's a new gates belt and there is plenty of tension on it, no more than 1/2" deflection on the long side (exhaust side) of the belt. I guess we just suck at doing the timing lol
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Hope that's all.
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Motor is timed correctly but still has that intermittent tick and stumbling, like its misfiring. I think the valves might just be way out of spec since everything has been torn apart, new valves in the head, etc. I'm going to do a valve adjustment and hope that helps. After that I'm all out of ideas
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Something else I just thought of, while the car has been sitting, I installed a new cat and plugged the 02 sensor in. For a long time before that there was no cat and no 02 sensor. I'm going to unplug the 02 sensor and see if that changes anything. Other than that and a valve adjustment I have no more ideas. This is getting very frustrating :/ haha
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Re: Update on my Prelude

Here's my final update... Got sick of dicking with the car so I sold it and bought a Civic as a reliable dd. Just needed a car and didn't have any more time to mess with the Prelude
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