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I have a 97 SH prelude. 168,000 miles and third owner. I picked it up with 162,000 miles on it 2 years ago.

NJ inspection station

The first time I went I failed and threw 3 codes. I took it to my mechanic. The CEL light was not showing, so he made sure that the bulb wasn't burned out. It wasn't. He cleared the codes and said drive it around for a while to see if they pop back up. He said the codes were very old and sometimes if the CEL stays on for too long it turns itself off so it doesn't burn out.

I put another 300 miles on it. The CEL light never came one. I just returned from the inpsection station for my second time and it threw p0325 (knock sensor code) and "MIL command status: fail". The MIL thing is the CEL light I think.

What do you think could be going on with this CEL light?
And the knock sensor is an easy fix, right?
Thanks for any help. It just started snowing again, so my Prelude since it's my snow/city car.
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Re: Help me out guys! Can't pass inspection

When you turn the key to II or III (whichever is gauges/dash lights on), does the CEL light come on??
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Ok so you use your prelude for a snow/city car... strike one.
Knock sensor is a $250 part and a pita to replace... strike two.
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When you turn the key to II or III (whichever is gauges/dash lights on), does the CEL light come on??
Yes, it comes on. This is how my mechanic confirmed that the bulb isn't burned out. When you plug it in an OB2 scanner the scanner will read the codes, but there is no CEL showing up in the dash. Any ideas?

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Ok so you use your prelude for a snow/city car... strike one.
Knock sensor is a $250 part and a pita to replace... strike two.
Lol strikes? Get off your high horse. It's served me well for the past 2 winters and when I go out into the city at night. It's a winter/city beater. It is not my daily driver.

$250 is tolerable. Perhaps I can get one used, or aftermarket. If repairs + parts are over $500 then I won't pursue them as it won't be worth it.
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Re: Help me out guys! Can't pass inspection

thats odd...

buy the new knock sensor, bring the lude to my house, Central NJ on a sunday, bring a case of beer 12 pack bottle yeung ling cant spell it lol

we can have a good ol' time figuring this out, everything can be fixed.
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^

I drove my lude in the snow yesterday.. looks like I'm staying home for awhile;
I slid everywhere lol
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take it somewhere, where its gonna be 'looked over'.... if u catch my drift. thats what ive been doing to my highly illegal lude for years now lol just ask people im sure SOMEONE knows where to go
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Re: Help me out guys! Can't pass inspection

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Yes, it comes on. This is how my mechanic confirmed that the bulb isn't burned out. When you plug it in an OB2 scanner the scanner will read the codes, but there is no CEL showing up in the dash. Any ideas?


Lol strikes? Get off your high horse. It's served me well for the past 2 winters and when I go out into the city at night. It's a winter/city beater. It is not my daily driver.

$250 is tolerable. Perhaps I can get one used, or aftermarket. If repairs + parts are over $500 then I won't pursue them as it won't be worth it.
I use mine for winters as well and I had a hard time passing inspections.. Either way it's not like preludes are super valuable cars, they are super nice don't get me wrong but I am not going to take the bus to school every day in -30C weather..

Try bringing it to a local honda dealership and ask them to take a look and see what's wrong. Should cost around 50$ inspection they will tell you EVERYTHING that is wrong
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thats odd...

buy the new knock sensor, bring the lude to my house, Central NJ on a sunday, bring a case of beer 12 pack bottle yeung ling cant spell it lol

we can have a good ol' time figuring this out, everything can be fixed.
Hmm that might be worth it... lol
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I drove my lude in the snow yesterday.. looks like I'm staying home for awhile;
I slid everywhere lol
What kind of tires do you have on it? I don't drive mine on the snow. I just drive it after the snow gets plowed. My other car just spins tires in freezing temps, and the tires are only for dry weather. There's also all of the salt on the roads.

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take it somewhere, where its gonna be 'looked over'.... if u catch my drift. thats what ive been doing to my highly illegal lude for years now lol just ask people im sure SOMEONE knows where to go
I heard of a place, but it's in Camden. Shady shady if you know where that is.

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I use mine for winters as well and I had a hard time passing inspections.. Either way it's not like preludes are super valuable cars, they are super nice don't get me wrong but I am not going to take the bus to school every day in -30C weather..

Try bringing it to a local honda dealership and ask them to take a look and see what's wrong. Should cost around 50$ inspection they will tell you EVERYTHING that is wrong
That's a good idea. I just want to know why that light doesn't come on, though. I have a whole list of problems (ATTS light, SRS light, burns oil, etc).
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i have no problem in the snow, cause i love sliding, mad fun drifting times, just need to know how to control the car in those situations
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take it somewhere, where its gonna be 'looked over'.... if u catch my drift. thats what ive been doing to my highly illegal lude for years now lol just ask people im sure SOMEONE knows where to go

^^ this.

When I couldn't pass state inspection/emissions with the TurboLude, I paid some local shop $100 for a sticker. Gotta do it with the Subby pretty soon too.
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^^ this.

When I couldn't pass state inspection/emissions with the TurboLude, I paid some local shop $100 for a sticker. Gotta do it with the Subby pretty soon too.
I see you're Ivey tuned, so you must be in Jersey as well. If so what shop did you pay off? You can PM it to me.

Ivey used to tune my other car. He couldn't fix an overboost issue. The problem with big shops like that is they're very expensive and they don't give you the time unless you're a big time customer dropping off their GTR and $30,000. There's a lot left to be had in his tune.
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i have no problem in the snow, cause i love sliding, mad fun drifting times, just need to know how to control the car in those situations
The problem is stopping. If you don't have dedicated snow tires you'll find yourself in big trouble while driving over snow.
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I see you're Ivey tuned, so you must be in Jersey as well. If so what shop did you pay off? You can PM it to me.

Ivey used to tune my other car. He couldn't fix an overboost issue. The problem with big shops like that is they're very expensive and they don't give you the time unless you're a big time customer dropping off their GTR and $30,000. There's a lot left to be had in his tune.

Yup I'm in North jerz. I agree w/ Ivey, I don't think I'd recommend him. Once I need to get tuned again, I WAS gonna go w/ EFI, but since Chris died...
Altho I do still hear pretty good things about them since STi Mikey is now one of their tuners.
Or Area1320 out in PA.

What's your other car?
When I was at Ivey, it was only Supra's and Evo's in their lot, I was the only subby

Honestly I've seen a buncha small mom-and-pop garages with "NJ Inspection" signs on them which is the type of place I went to. Just walk in there w/ a Ben Franklin and see if they'll give ya a sticker.
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That's my car.

I don't know who to recommend for STi's. Two of my friends had their STi's at the Philly Autoshow this week. I don't know who tunes their cars, but I could ask. The shop that takes care of my car only does Evo X's and that's it.

I'll start asking around for smaller shops that do inspections. When looking at NJ's website they only list 2 independent shops in my area that do inspections.
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i have no problem in the snow, cause i love sliding, mad fun drifting times, just need to know how to control the car in those situations
Indeed, my eclipse was mad fun when it snowed a few years back
my lude still doesn't have rear brakes lol
Ebrake is useless to me


I'm running on 4 different size tires
&nah, I live in camden and tried to get an inspection sticker a couple months ago.
nobody does the 100$ inspection down here anymore.
Luckily all I was failing for was that I needed a new cat
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That's my car.

I don't know who to recommend for STi's. Two of my friends had their STi's at the Philly Autoshow this week. I don't know who tunes their cars, but I could ask. The shop that takes care of my car only does Evo X's and that's it.

I'll start asking around for smaller shops that do inspections. When looking at NJ's website they only list 2 independent shops in my area that do inspections.


O yea I 'member seein pics of that beauty, gorgeous!!
Dumb question, but...... where'd you get the inspection sticker for the Evo?? Did it pass NJ inspec/emissions??

Since you're a fellow AWD'er, if you could lemme know if you find any square setup 18x10 XD-9's or VS-XX's, that'd be appreciated
Every fuking set of VS-XX's I find are staggered
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O yea I 'member seein pics of that beauty, gorgeous!!
Dumb question, but...... where'd you get the inspection sticker for the Evo?? Did it pass NJ inspec/emissions??

Since you're a fellow AWD'er, if you could lemme know if you find any square setup 18x10 XD-9's or VS-XX's, that'd be appreciated
Every fuking set of VS-XX's I find are staggered
Sure I'll let you know if I see any on sale across the Evo forums.

I bought my car new in 2009. Inspection is due this June. My tuner said I should pass everything except the cat. I need to put that back on for the test.
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I dropped my car off at my mechanic's yesterday. Today he called me up saying that it'd be around $700 to fix the knock sensor simply because the SH models have the ATTS unit blocking it from underneath. Ugghhh. He cleared my codes and said give it another go, so I'm going tomorrow morning.

If it doesn't pass then I won't be able to sell this car. I'll just continue to use it as my city beater, even after I buy a third car. Fortunately I was rear ended a while back and the insurance paid me out almost what I paid for the car.
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Jesus he's making like $600 to fix one sensor, christ.



Altho I do remember working on the back of the block of an SH is a ginormous PITA.
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