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After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

If you just did a cooling job of some sort and or replaced anything that has to doo with cooling and you lost a substantial amount of coolant your engine probably does an idling surge.
From my experience it is simply from a lack of coolant.

Step 1. Allow engine to cool and loose pressure.
Step 2. Remove cap.
Step 3. To prepare for spills and mess provide yourself with a large drip pan and or absorbant cloth/Spill Kit.
Step 4. With Cap Removed start enigine.
Step 5. As Engine has began to run maintain a visual on coolant level.
Step 6. As you began to hear the surging you may choose What to do next
Step 6a. Add a pre diluted coolant until engine stops surging
Step 6b. Add DISTILLED water.
Step 6c. Add Undiluted Coolant.
Step 6 Notes: undiluted coolant is ok in small quantities however try not to add more than 1/4 of a large coolant container/bottle. To much coolant will disrupt the heat transfer properties need for you cooling system. (Chemical Engineering simplified)
Do not at Tap water as much tap contains large quantities of calcium. Do not use Filtered bottle water as much of the time there are added minerals to the water for taste.
These minerals can cause build up and restrict the circulation through your cooling system. Same for Tap Water contains calcium having the same effect.

Step 7. Check for any unexpected leaks
Step 8. Provide ample amount of time for engine to stop surging.
Step 9. When engine stops surging top off the radiator
Step 10. Place Radiator Cap back onto Radiator.
Step 11. Turn off Engine and provide time to COOL.
Step 12. Once engine cools check radiator and ensure it is full.
STEP 13. From a cold status start engine.
If surging continues this may be a vacum hose or A dirty or sensor not connected properly.
Turn off engine
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

Thanks. I did not know about all those minerals in my tap water. No wonder I get kidney stones.
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

If you have an idle surge - break the bleeder valve open while the engine is running.


Proceed to bleed the air out of the system and add coolant as necessary.


50/50 pre-mixed coolant is the easiest solution.



your methods take too long.
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Agreed^^^
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

Nice write up, will keep this one handy.

Hey Byk^, I drink lemonade to keep those stones in check!
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

Yes to much calcium could cause kidney stones.
The bleeder valve will help remove air but to little coolant takes away from the heat transfer qualities of coolant and the system will have difficulty building up pressure to transfer heat easier if you in a sense create a vacum from little coolant covering a larger volume.
The turtle won the race against the hair.
This was a simple write up in the event someone drians does a little work to their cooling system and begins to freak out about an idle surge like I did.
Mind you I did a lot more than cooling work to my Lude and I was ready to dynamite my car when I had that idle surge.
Imagine dropping $900 in parts alone no mechanic labor just me and my roommate. But $900 to just get the Prelude RUNNING. Now I'm broke and something else was happening. I was ready to kill this car.
I did take my car to a mechanic because it wouldn't start. Turns out it was the ECU Ground so he didn't charge me. So yes my no mechanic labor amount is zero.
Anyways If I gave tall $900 to do anything you wanted to to your prelude and only your prelude what would you do.
Now imgaine that money was only to get my prelude to run. Its not on the road but does run.
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

It went like this
Hear knocking sound from spun bearing, replaced that had it towed to my house to get.
A broken timing belt, replaced that to get...
A bad starter, replaced that to get no spark,from,,
Ignition coil, replaced that to get,
No spark from,
Distributor, replaced that to get no spark to,
Plugs, replaced wire set to get,
No freaking spark!!!
Took it to mechanic to get,
Bad ground connection for ECU.
Fixed ground to get turn over but no run,
Fixed firing order, to get
Two marks on the fly wheel one is 180 one is TDC niether is marked and both have 15 degree marks,
Fixed timing to get......engine runs 5 min idle, knocking again
Auto tensioner gave out replaced it and in the process breaking water pump housing. Mind you I can weld but its aluminum. So epoxy to last me to payday to get new pump.
Put pump on has a small leak added stop leak. Didn't work.
But as it idled I had an Idle surge. At that point this car had a one way ticket to the metal recycling yard.
So that was why I did this simple write up from my phone. (Excuse the misspelling and random leters that don't belong).
Thankfully my roommate was just as upset as I was and he did more research. Going that low coolant can cause this idle surge. Added coolant saving this little beauties existance. Still have to replace water pump but part is at NAPA waiting for me to get off work and put it on
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Re: After Engine cooling sysyem Drain or Flush

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Hey Byk^, I drink lemonade to keep those stones in check!
Old guy talk rules!,
I heard citric acid does the trick. Heartburn issues caused me to avoid that after a while and go with broccoli. Yep, broccili. The calcium in broccoli breaks down better than dairy products. I use a filter in my water, avoid grape soda and stay hydrated.
So far so good about 3 years now.

I've always used 50/50 mix but will use good water from now on.
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Yes to much calcium could cause kidney stones.
The bleeder valve will help remove air but to little coolant takes away from the heat transfer qualities of coolant and the system will have difficulty building up pressure to transfer heat easier if you in a sense create a vacum from little coolant covering a larger volume.
The turtle won the race against the hair.
This was a simple write up in the event someone drians does a little work to their cooling system and begins to freak out about an idle surge like I did.
Mind you I did a lot more than cooling work to my Lude and I was ready to dynamite my car when I had that idle surge.
Imagine dropping $900 in parts alone no mechanic labor just me and my roommate. But $900 to just get the Prelude RUNNING. Now I'm broke and something else was happening. I was ready to kill this car.
I did take my car to a mechanic because it wouldn't start. Turns out it was the ECU Ground so he didn't charge me. So yes my no mechanic labor amount is zero.
Anyways If I gave tall $900 to do anything you wanted to to your prelude and only your prelude what would you do.
Now imgaine that money was only to get my prelude to run. Its not on the road but does run.

That's why I suggested 50/50 pre-mix.

I've spent well over $900 on maintenance parts that i've installed myself, going beyond the timing belt - no need to imagine.

Get yourself a HELMS manual. You would have saved yourself all that aggravation if you had the simple instructions to do everything properly.
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