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Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Ok so I'm trying to replace the timing belt on my Base 97Prelude H22A4. To do thisI must remove the crankshaft pulley. I have the Honda pulley holder tool however, when I tell you this crankshaft bolt is not coming off I mean I broke my breaker bar and 2 craftsman 1/2in. drive sockets(19mm). Moved to an 1/14 Impact Gun and still got nothing. I tried heating the bolt to see if that helped and I got no where. I am out of options that I am aware of. Does anyone else have any ideas what to do?? Im dying to get it back up an running its been 4 no the now.

I have a Chilton manual an it says turn counterclockwise which is what I'm doing. Any Mechanics have any suggestions from chems to tools throw them out here please.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

I snapped a couple regular sockets too.
Get/use a 19mm impact socket, they're hardened and can withstand the torque.


Also leverage FTW! Go get a 6' pipe from Home Depot that fits over the 1/2" breaker bar, will make your life a thousand times easier.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Fancy fat guys batman! I was thinking 3' pipe and 3/4" breaker bar/ 6point impact socket.
Anything longer might bend unless you get extra thick stuff.
Then put a cushion between the fender and the leverage and get your largest friend to use gravity to it's advantage.
I say that knowing I haven't done a crank bolt on a Honda while mr. V6coupe has. Listen to him. Lol
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Torque = Force x Radius

Since I don't have alotta force (mass, actually) of only 135lb's, I make up for it by a longer Radius
The more torque, the easier.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Alright so. I did use the breaker bar and the impact socket already. The socket didn't snap. Also I did use the top bar of my jack on top of that so Torque = whatever I squat X 48in (approx). Also T=160X48in. This sucker didn't rotate for squat. The impact socket was a 12pt. So it actually twisted off slightly stripping the bolt. Its still got plenty to grab on to this thing won't budge. I am in need of off the wall out of the box ideas.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

There's some interesting techniques on youtube you may want to check out.

I don't have much experience with this but I feel your pain...good luck and let us know how you make out.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

6 point socket. Heat might've hurt the deal.
Sledgehammer
Pitman puller.
Off the wall enough?
Seriously though, spray wd40 in the gap, let it set overnight and try it then.

@V6coupe, I void warranties. Lol at 5'9 and195 when somethings stuck they say let's get mikey, he breaks everything. It either comes off or breaks.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Did you have the extension up close to the breaker bar resting on a jack stand? Gotta keep your extensions straight out or you're gonna be putting unnecessary force on where they connect rather than on the bolt.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

I'm telling you, 6' pipe.
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^^You did it once, it worked Nuf said, right?
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I snapped a couple regular sockets too.
Get/use a 19mm impact socket, they're hardened and can withstand the torque.


Also leverage FTW! Go get a 6' pipe from Home Depot that fits over the 1/2" breaker bar, will make your life a thousand times easier.
Impact sockets are softened noob!
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Ehhh, you say tomato, I say tomato.



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No no no no, the analogy is "you say potato, I say refrigerator"

I keed, I keed. The last time I dealt with this, the damn thing literally fell off, balancer and all (in the DMV parking lot, of all places) so it wasn't hard to put back on. All the other times it's been beneficial to drop the driver's motor mount, let the engine rest on the other three mounts (it won't hurt it, just be VERY careful letting it down) and then put it back on its front wheels in gear with the e-brake on and use the clutch to "hold" the pulley.

If that doesn't work, you know what they say. USE A BIGGER HAMMER. In this case, do like what everyone is saying. Keep the extension as straight as possible, use ONLY 6 POINT SOCKETS, and get a big fawking pipe.
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Tried your pipe idea twokexlv6coupe.

The bolt its officially rounded out. So. Ideas to get it off and out. And where to find another one
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Wd40 and well never mind..
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Haha, impact sockets are softer so they can absorb the intense vibrations of well power tools, as chrome sockets are hardened metal which is why they crack under high stress. Sorry I couldn't help it Don't worry, I'll never forget why my car starts haha!
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

Maybe you can file the 6 sides of the bolt flat enough to get a 6 point on there, after the wd40/pb blaster or whatever has soaked over night.

Couldn't tell ya how many exhaust many mani bolts I've seen stripped with 12pt sockets..
I stripped 2 myself. First was using a cheap 12pt on a 67 cougar. 2nd was on somebody elses car. It was a metric bolt. The guy had sae 12pt. He couldn't get it. I said let me go get my 6pt metric... but nooooo.

If i need a pipe to break it loose, I use 6pt socket.
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Alright Boys and girls.
I have tried all of your Ideas!!! WD40/SuperTech Lubricant (overnight) and wond up using 8 Feet of pipe and a 6 point socket. The end result of all of this was a clean shear of the extension.
I dont think you could cut a piece of metal as clean as this thing sheared. Ill post pictures eventually so yall can see. Im trying to determine whether or not a mechanic could even do this. Any other Ideas?
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

So....You'll be glad to hear I have successfully removed this bolt.
I finally got fed up with it and sprayed an ultra large quantity of lubricant on to the bolt.
let it sit another hour or so and... lit it up. I burnt the crap out of that sucker until the wasnt any lubricant left to burn. Eseentially I believe the heat possibly made the lubricant go into the unreachablr places of the bolt allowing it to slip free. So essentially bykfixer you were right WD40 and well he we are. however!!!,,,, oyur ultimate post was.....
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If I need a pipe to break it loose, I use a 6 pt. socket and some WD40.
you were ultimatly correct and a huge help thank you.
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What you need when your crankshaft bolt is stuck.

1. WD40 and a ton of it
2. 6pt. Socket. (19mm translates to 3/4in)
3. 12in. extension.
4. 2X$ of Jackstand (to support the extension)
5. A propane or other high intensity flame torch
6. A FREAKING HUGE CHEATER BAR
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I'm telling you, 6' pipe.

















..................... soundsss familiar



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Im telling you this was my set up the whole time. I broke a craftsman socket with the pipe so that wasn't enough
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Glad you got it.. finally. Whew
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What you need when your crankshaft bolt is stuck.

1. WD40 and a ton of it
2. 6pt. Socket. (19mm translates to 3/4in)
3. 12in. extension.
4. 2X$ of Jackstand (to support the extension)
5. A propane or other high intensity flame torch
6. A FREAKING HUGE CHEATER BAR
Rofl propane will never do anything, any just so you know whatever you heat up expands so I bet you made everything harder by heating up that bolt haha! Your missing 2 things,
7. Monkey Grip
8. Muscles
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King kong grip? GI Joe kung fu grip? That's a 10 finger pull for sure.
I don't know why folks heat a stuck bolt. I've seen it done a bunch of times. Seems to me that'll make the bolt weaker after it cools down. Ie break off easier.
My 30 year old 3' long chunk of 1" iron pipe has never failed me. On a mustang once I considered hookin a truck to the pipe. Instead I talked a fellow named Big Al into pulling on it. The jolly brown giant got it in no time.
Dude pulled a 300lb man out of a trench getting ready to cave in with 1 hand. Literally tossed the guy like a frisbee.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

I thought of this post this morning when a bridge worker at my work walked by with a 5' long breaker bar draped over his shoulder like a rifle. They use 3/4" stuff for the light work.
This guy was like 6' tall and his neck was as big as his head. His arms were too now that I think about it. I bet he could've gotten that bolt loose.
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Re: Crank Shaft Pulley Bolt Help

I got really pissed when I broke my only breaker bar taking off the same thing so I got a 1 inch impact gun I thought for sure it would snap the bolt but it came off right away
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