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18 years old looking to buy a prelude

First of all, I am 18 years old and I am very new to maintaining a car and what some car terms are. If a car does break down on me, I literally would not know what to do. I am very interested in the prelude since it is very sporty and I have heard it is very reliable since it is a Honda. I thought of buying a civic but I feel like I would be wasting my money. I decided to just go full on and pay for a decent prelude that will get me through my college years. I am not looking for a car to keep for many many years. I have found some decent cars on kijiji. I have heard preludes go up to 300k KM's until they start having major problems. Could you please tell me what is the reality when it comes to worst case scenarios when buying the prelude? My brother knows A lot about cars so if I do buy one, he will most likely check it out to see it is in good condition. I would also like to ask about a manual or an automatic transmission. I have read on this forum how the 5th gen auto is very bad. I somewhat know how to drive a manual car. Is it possible to learn manual on a prelude? Would I be ruining the car if I stall a couple of times when learning? Should I even be practising how to drive standard on a expensive (for my age) car?
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I have heard preludes go up to 300k KM's until they start having major problems.
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P.S how much km's should the car have if I only want it to last me 3 or 4 years maximum?
depends about the maintenance. you have to keep your car "up to date"

whats the point of getting that expensive car just for couple of years? I dont see any point there

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Could you please tell me what is the reality when it comes to worst case scenarios when buying the prelude?
here is the worst case scenario for you:
Another Prelude Story

young dude driving over his driving skills with "sporty car" to show off his friends/girl

thats the reason I always say that learn to drive first before you get "fast" car!

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I would also like to ask about a manual or an automatic transmission.
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I have read on this forum how the 5th gen auto is very bad.
yes they are

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Would I be ruining the car if I stall a couple of times when learning?
thats pretty possible that your clutch is gone pretty fast or/and you wreck the car

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Should I even be practising how to drive standard on a expensive (for my age) car?
you should get another cheaper car, no point of ruining another prelude if youre going to use it just the college time
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Re: 18 years old looking to buy a prelude

I would stay away from the automatic.
The other two look like they'd be worth taking a look at. I would be partial to the 2001 which appears to be mostly stock and have the lowest mileage.

My 18 year old son learned to drive a "stick" in a Prelude, so that should be no problem. Know your limits and drive with respect for your car and other drivers. Good luck!
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The last two look great. Def go with 5 speed, learn how to it will be beneficial in the long run and will be fun to drive.
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Preludes are the worst starter cars ever. You will go broke quickly, still not figure out the problem, your girl will leave you because you're obsessed, and then the car will start repairing itself, playing oldies music..... It's old enough now.

For a first car, get a corolla, or a civic and leave it alone. Save up money, get all the experience you need, and then, prelude of your choice. Buy one now, you might miss out a future Prelude that's better.
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its a prelude not a lambo im sure you will be fine learning to drive on it.
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For a first car, get a corolla, or a civic and leave it alone. Save up money, get all the experience you need, and then, prelude of your choice.
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depends about the maintenance. you have to keep your car "up to date"

whats the point of getting that expensive car just for couple of years? I dont see any point there



here is the worst case scenario for you:
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young dude driving over his driving skills with "sporty car" to show off his friends/girl

thats the reason I always say that learn to drive first before you get "fast" car!


manual


yes they are


thats pretty possible that your clutch is gone pretty fast or/and you wreck the car


you should get another cheaper car, no point of ruining another prelude if youre going to use it just the college time

Just to clarify my self a little bit more. I barely get any hours at work since I am a college student, I have been saving this money for a long time. Buying a civic that costs 1.5k or so for me would just be wasting my time and money since I have driven my brothers 90 DX hatchback and it is not satisfying at all when it comes to looks. When it comes to showing off my "skills". I am not buying it to go over the speed limit, race etc. When it comes to the clutch is gone. How much would it cost to repair it? replace it?

Thanks again for all the suggestions guys!

P.S I am not trying to ruin the prelude, I will be maintaining it regularly and it seems everyone says to pump only premium oil which I will do 100%. The reason why I am saying to last me at least 3 or 4 years is because that is when I graduate and will start my career hopefully. If I can make those cars last way more, than that's even better for me!

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*premium gas. Needs premium gas or you'll damage the engine in the long run.

and for oil it's typically 10w30. You don't need synthetic, nor is it recommended if the car has run conventional (regular) oil for most/all its life.

Clutch job is usually around $700 (labor+parts), some have reported cheaper depending on shop or if they buy their own parts, some reported as much as $1600 (labor+parts) which is at a dealership...
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*premium gas. Needs premium gas or you'll damage the engine in the long run.

and for oil it's typically 10w30. You don't need synthetic, nor is it recommended if the car has run conventional (regular) oil for most/all its life.

Clutch job is usually around $700 (labor+parts), some have reported cheaper depending on shop or if they buy their own parts, some reported as much as $1600 (labor+parts) which is at a dealership...
haha sorry, yea i ment gas. I just asked my brother about the clutch and he says their are places around my area that do it for 500$ parts+labour or so. so thats good!
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When it comes to showing off my "skills". I am not buying it to go over the speed limit, race etc.
sorry but Ive heard that before

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I am not trying to ruin the prelude, I will be maintaining it regularly
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I barely get any hours at work since I am a college student, I have been saving this money for a long time.
it takes time and money to keep your car running ok (just gas/fuel and insurances are higher than with other cars), when you first buy a car, theres pretty often maintaining to do and if you dont have tools/skills/place to do them by yourself it takes even more money. preludes arent that cheap cars to keep

but little tip what were my criterions when I picked up mine lude:

- Base, NOT SH
- manual transmission
- no 4ws

with that "list" there is less expensive things to maintenance
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your girl will leave you because you're obsessed
This was partly true for me, but I wasn't obsessed. I bought my lude when I was 19, and I didn't know how to drive manual. Luckily, the lude that I bought needed a new clutch, so I practiced driving manual on the old clutch, and then got a new one afterwards.
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got to agree with sideswipe.
when i was young i had a 4 door. it was reliable, parts were cheap and readily available. but... it won't cool.
all my buddies had cool cars. so i sold ole reliable and got me a cool car too. dam thing looked real cool sitting in my driveway broke down 'cause i didn't have the dough to fix the never ending list of maintenance items.
funny thing is, all my buddies with cool cars were nowhere to be found when i was walking.
btw you can get an accord wagon with vtec and auto tranny for cheap. it'll carry your snowboard, your books, a bazzilion watts of amps and speakers, will get great gas mileage and you'll have the only one on campus.
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Thank you all for the suggestions and advice! Most of the feedback I am getting is not to get one just yet. I am looking at a 91-92 Integra now since it is cheaper and I guess maybe cheaper to maintain.

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got agree with sideswipe.
when i was young i had a 4 door. it was reliable, parts were cheap and readily available. but... it won't cool.
all my buddies had cool cars. so i sold ole reliable and got me a cool car too. dam thing looked real cool sitting in my driveway broke down 'cause i didn't have the dough to fix the never ending list of maintenance items.
funny thing is, all my buddies with cool cars were nowhere to be found when i was walking.
btw you can get an accord wagon with vtec and auto tranny for cheap. it'll carry your snowboard, your books, a bazzilion watts of amps and speakers, will get great gas mileage and you'll have the only one on campus.
Much truth here. And if I could find a accord wagon... I would so 5-speed swap with F20-B. But I love the assholery of driving a 6900lb suburban. 454 in the near future!

Yes get your driving skills on par, get a 94pc craftsman tool set about 50.00$ and tool around with your machine so you're ready for your prelude.
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Preludes are the worst starter cars ever. You will go broke quickly, still not figure out the problem, your girl will leave you because you're obsessed, and then the car will start repairing itself, playing oldies music..... It's old enough now.

For a first car, get a corolla, or a civic and leave it alone. Save up money, get all the experience you need, and then, prelude of your choice. Buy one now, you might miss out a future Prelude that's better.

I agree completly!!!

Heres my story for you man

I bought my car, it needed a ECU, about 400 dollars later all good

I did a tune up on it, spark plugs, dizzy, fluids, fifty bucks

I had two tires go flat, at the same time, 220 dollars,

My muffler blew up on me, including a pipe up stream of the muffler, 120 dollars.

Dont get me wrong preludes are wonderful cars, but for your first car its a lot of money, not to mention you have to fill up with premium which is like 20-30 cents more per gallon.

Oh and im eighteen as well. If i was you i would get a civic like somebody else suggested, who cares what your first car is, you should be happy with a car. In no way am i trying to deter you from buying a prelude. If i could go back before i bought my prelude i would still probably buy it.
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Why are most of you trying to steer him away from buying a prelude? Seriously? He obviously has his head in the right place and there is nothing wrong with buying a lude for a first car.
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because he obviously dont have enough money to keep/maintain/drive it


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Could you please estimate how much it would cost to maintain it monthly on average? or maybe yearly? It would really give me a better perspective if I should be even thinking of buying one.

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Could you please estimate how much it would cost to maintain it monthly on average? or maybe yearly? It would really give me a better perspective if I should be even thinking of buying one.

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I spend about 170 on insurance each month, about 60-70 on gas depending on where im driving (highway/city). After that I cant really say how much it will be monthly/yearly because things will come up that you didnt expect. And another thing I just thought about. If this is your first car, and you have never worked on a car in the past, a prelude is not a good first car to learn on. Like someone else said, you will think its one thing and its really another.
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Re: 18 years old looking to buy a prelude

i got lucky once and found a prelude that was 99% redone. new brakes, timing belt etc. if you can find that you will pay say $3k vs 1.5k for a money pit but will drive healthy for years to come.
my son just bought a similar deal. except for a quart of oil here and there it's gas and go with about$75/ mnth insurance and about $100/ mth gas. he's 26
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Could you please estimate how much it would cost to maintain it monthly on average? or maybe yearly? It would really give me a better perspective if I should be even thinking of buying one.

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depends how well it have been maintenanced already: do you need new brake/suspension parts, exhaust parts, does it need new clutch, when was the timing belt job been done, what are tires/ignition parts condition, is there rust anywhere and so on...

when you know that everything is up to date, you can easily drive few years just paying gas and insurances (and of course oil changes every year) but it takes some effort and money to get into that situation
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i got lucky once and found a prelude that was 99% redone. new brakes, timing belt etc. if you can find that you will pay say $3k vs 1.5k for a money pit but will drive healthy for years to come.
my son just bought a similar deal. except for a quart of oil here and there it's gas and go with about$75/ mnth insurance and about $100/ mth gas. he's 26

Oh don't worry, I am not dumb enough to buy a prelude thats worth 1500. I know I need to spend at least 3k on it which is what my budget is at the moment. I have seen great deals with about 240k KM on them. Manual and it is in mint condition. When it comes to insurance, my brother has a friend that works in an insurance company... so I will only be paying 400 dollars a year on insurance (Does not cover any accidents or damage). It's just to get me by if I get pulled over.

This is one of the ads my brother told me to check out.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ441338101

Price Dropped!!!! 2000 Honda Prelude SH.. Only $ 3,200 - City of Toronto Cars For Sale - Kijiji City of Toronto Canada.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ440261302

So hopefully if the car is still available, I will be getting it by new years.

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depends how well it have been maintenanced already: do you need new brake/suspension parts, exhaust parts, does it need new clutch, when was the timing belt job been done, what are tires/ignition parts condition, is there rust anywhere and so on...

when you know that everything is up to date, you can easily drive few years just paying gas and insurances (and of course oil changes every year) but it takes some effort and money to get into that situation

Thanks for your suggestion. Others made it sound like IF everything is STILL up to date, it will still need 300$+ a month maintenance. Even if it does, I have an extra thousand in my bank for emergencys if anything pops up.
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Thanks for your suggestion. Others made it sound like IF everything is STILL up to date, it will still need 300$+ a month maintenance. Even if it does, I have an extra thousand in my bank for emergencys if anything pops up.
but usually people just drive and dont maintenance their cars so you have to do those things yourself. if the previous owner dont have receipts that some maintenance is done, you probably have to do it then

Im VERY sceptical about previous owners maintenances because people usually try to make you believe that there is less maintenance to do what the truth reallly is

Id stay away from SH's and look 99-01 from 5th gens, they have slight better engine
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but usually people just drive and dont maintenance their cars so you have to do those things yourself. if the previous owner dont have receipts that some maintenance is done, you probably have to do it then

Im VERY sceptical about previous owners maintenances because people usually try to make you believe that there is less maintenance to do what the truth reallly is

Id stay away from SH's and look 99-01 from 5th gens, they have slight better engine
Thank you again! I will try to find one that the owner can prove that he has maintained the car
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