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Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

On Wednesday, 05/30/2012, I dropped off my block, head, crank and girdle, piston rods, and new valves with springs and retainers.

-On the head they are doing a pressure check, resurface, 3-angle valve job, and seating and installing my new valves, springs and retainers.
-I'm having the block honed, the crank balanced and micro-polished, and whatever machine shops do to rods.
-And having everything hot tanked and cleaned.

It's now 06/26 and tomorrow will mark the 4 week point that they've had it. So far they only have some of the headwork done, not all of it. I think it said they've resurfaced it, pressure tested it, and done the valve job, but it's not all put together. From what I gather, machine shops usually take awhile, but I don't know when to start bugging them because goddamn I'm eager to get this thing put back together and running!

Really, the only reason I've been patient this long is because they're one of the 2 shops that knew FRM required a specific kind of stone. I called between 7 and 10 shops and asked them if they're familiar with FRM sleeves, and if they said "What's FRM?", that was the end of that conversation.

Anyway, is this typical, or should I have started bugging them weeks ago about it? What are some of you guys' experience?
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Re: Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

Took right around a month for my shop to simply do the machine work of my short block halves; clean/hot tank, bore, hone, deck x2, inspect (not mic) the crank and rods.


And they're also one of the most famous shops in the country that build rally subby's
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Did you give them a deadline? Did they give you an approximate time?
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Ah, well nobody cares about Subarus anymore so that's why you got it back so quick. Muahaha just kidding!

Thats cool though, I guess we're still on track time-wise then. I just get real impatient when I'm excited about something. I was hoping to have this done in a week or two. I got bored at the 3rd week and sanded my engine bay. Last week, I cleaned up the garage enough to bring my ATV in and do all the seals and brakes, and painted a bunch of it. And this week I'm out of stuff to do.


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Did you give them a deadline? Did they give you an approximate time?
He just told me a couple weeks so I was like alright cool..a couple is 2, a few is 3, a month is 4. I guess certain people have different ideas of 'a couple'..
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Ah, well nobody cares about Subarus anymore so that's why you got it back so quick. Muahaha just kidding!

Thats cool though, I guess we're still on track time-wise then. I just get real impatient when I'm excited about something. I was hoping to have this done in a week or two. I got bored at the 3rd week and sanded my engine bay. Last week, I cleaned up the garage enough to bring my ATV in and do all the seals and brakes, and painted a bunch of it. And this week I'm out of stuff to do.


Patience is a virtue, young grasshoppa

Start deleting everything in your bay than
ABS, PS, AC, etc....

Give the entire body a clay/wetsand/wax?...
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Re: Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

I'm too attached to my creature comforts to start taking them outta the car!
Clayed and waxed, yes. It's a terrible paint job though, so I'm not too into protecting it right now til I get it resprayed. Right now I'm just waiting for someone to tow me to the high pressure wash so I can get as much gunk and stuff outta the bay before I paint it. I've sanded the entire front end since I took the bumper cover and fenders off, and nearly mirror-polished my stock tow hooks. Those f****rs are some hard-ass steel.
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Re: Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

Also... you gonna be assembling the motor yourself?
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Also... you gonna be assembling the motor yourself?
Myself and a buddy with a bit more knowledge than myself we be assembling it, pending the cylinder measurements after the hone. If I have to go oversized, I'm gonna make the shop do it to get clearances right. I'm really just waiting for those measurements so I can get my damn pistons and bearings ordered.

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If no word by next year, you might want to check up on them.


























Trololololol! You could just check all the torque specs on your car to quiet chassis chatter, tighten loose bolts. I mean, you just have to wait. But I know about that anxiety. "Chill Winston," LOL
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Re: Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

Well as long as it doesn't take as long as my brothers car you'll be fine. He dropped off his mr2 in January and then didn't get it back till may. It was def worth the wait though. They took the whole engine out put stage 1 cams, replaced the head gasket, upgraded the rods and pistons, fixed the oil lines for the turbo, and got a AEM specialist tune it. The car ended up putting down 350hp. It crazy fast. You can get sideways so easy in that car. The shop has two GTR's, an AMG, a NSX, a twin turbo supra, and crazy fast civics. You can look at there cars on YouTube if you put in one-six tuning.
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Thanks guys, that's really what I was looking for. I haven't been bugging them, I know it's hard work to do a lot of that stuff, and their shop really is pretty nice, there's always all years of Range Rovers from the dealership down the road, and a lot of big blocks lying around. Plus, I've had work done by them before, just not to this extent, so that's why I'm unfamiliar with the length of time this kinda stuff takes. As stated, when I asked them what kind of time frame to expect, the owner told me a couple weeks so I guess I misinterpreted his meaning. It's okay though, I appreciate all your responses!
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the shop that built my motor had my car for 9 months lol
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Wow you guy's shops must be crazy busy to take that long to build a motor. We have built 3 motors, and overhauled(factory specs) a lot more. I don't think it has ever taken us more than about 2 weeks to build one including sending the head off to have it machined (usually 1-3 days depending on how busy our machinest is).
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the building process usually takes a while because of the design of the engines materials ,also make sure you get some kind of paper work on the specs .
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Ah, well nobody cares about Subarus anymore so that's why you got it back so quick. Muahaha just kidding!

Thats cool though, I guess we're still on track time-wise then. I just get real impatient when I'm excited about something. I was hoping to have this done in a week or two. I got bored at the 3rd week and sanded my engine bay. Last week, I cleaned up the garage enough to bring my ATV in and do all the seals and brakes, and painted a bunch of it. And this week I'm out of stuff to do.




He just told me a couple weeks so I was like alright cool..a couple is 2, a few is 3, a month is 4. I guess certain people have different ideas of 'a couple'..
Tell him when does he plan on having it done. That you have already made plans for moving forward on your project based on his "couple of weeks" deadline and he is now holding up your project. Pin him down but don't be a jerk about it. Let him know you need a definite.
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Myself and a buddy with a bit more knowledge than myself we be assembling it, pending the cylinder measurements after the hone. If I have to go oversized, I'm gonna make the shop do it to get clearances right. I'm really just waiting for those measurements so I can get my damn pistons and bearings ordered.

¿Por que?

I better be seeing progress pics of the build when it happens than
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Tell him when does he plan on having it done. That you have already made plans for moving forward on your project based on his "couple of weeks" deadline and he is now holding up your project. Pin him down but don't be a jerk about it. Let him know you need a definite.
Rushing the machine shop on the most important part of a build?...
I'd rather be patient and know its done right rather than them rushing it and possibly doin it half-assed.

Having a deadline for something as critical as an engine build is the last thing you need. I guarantee you there's going to be a million more hurdles and obstacles that'll delay this engine build, between all the different parts you need or order, delayed orders, breaking thigs, needing special tools, gaskets, silicone, etc...
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Rushing the machine shop on the most important part of a build?...
I'd rather be patient and know its done right rather than them rushing it and possibly doin it half-assed.


^this. it takes time so just let them do what they have to.
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Rushing the machine shop on the most important part of a build?...
I'd rather be patient and know its done right rather than them rushing it and possibly doin it half-assed.

Having a deadline for something as critical as an engine build is the last thing you need. I guarantee you there's going to be a million more hurdles and obstacles that'll delay this engine build, between all the different parts you need or order, delayed orders, breaking thigs, needing special tools, gaskets, silicone, etc...
It's not about rushing them though. It's really a fine line, I mean you want to move forward with your project based off of a timeline but you don't want crapass work either. That's why I included the "don't be a jerk about it" comment. Just because it's a machine shop handling your motor doesn't mean they should be able to take advantage and do it whenever they feel like either. I have seen a lot of BS in the car industry and you read about it all the time from guys getting the run around for months and months. Nothing wrong with being detailed oriented and holding guys to their words. The quality of the work shouldn't suffer either because you're asking for someone to keep their word, if that's the case go somewhere else because they're not worth doing business with.
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In the meantime you can check out my members ride for the scooby cuz I'm currently assembling my motor, that'll hold you over
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Re: Machine Shop- How Long is TOO Long?

Im a machinist and we have lots of different jobs come in and out of our shop. In this line of work you need to be upfront with them. Its in a machinists nature to extend deadlines to the last possible second. Basically the more jobs you have open the more money you make, so they sometimes lose sight of the customers best interest. I would do like the others say but be upfront with him tell them they gave you a deadline and tell him you need to get it done. They hold orders till they are long past RED
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im getting my engine resleeved/rebuilt, and ive been waiting 5 weeks so far. the best advice would be not to rush it but to continue calling so that they know you won't be ignored or pushed back.
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