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Buying my first jack set!

Come the beginning of next month, I'm going to be buying my first personal set of jack stands and a floor jack. I'm interested in hearing what you guys are using. I've been even looking at harbor freight's 3 ton steel floor jack, though I've seen some nice acdelco ones. Care to shine some light on the topic? I'm already set on harbor freight jack stands since they're cheap and they do the job well.
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Generic 2 Tons, they're enough for cars. Harbor's good, Been thinking about these to match my ... 4 ton truck jack



There are stronger jacks, I personally can't think of anything else better for the money. And stop answering that thread, not worth the warning.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

nice! I bought my first set a couple years ago, on sale for $50. had a 2 ton jack, two 2 ton jack stands and 2 wheel blockers.

the jack sucked, only good for basic maintenance. now looking for a new one...

if you plan on lowering your car or it's already lowered, might have to look for a low profile jack that is low enough to get under, otherwise its a PITA to get your car up. I usually had to use the jack that came with the car to get it up just high enough to get the floor jack under it.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

Yeah I unsubbed from the thread, it's gotten way off topic, I can't resist haha. Thanks sideswipe. Any opinions on a good floor jack? I haven't been able to find any jacks I like other than the ones that harbor freight offer.
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I'm a little particular to scissor jacks, seeing how they fit at the oem points and gently load the jack stands. it takes practice to use the spin handle jacks.

Also scissor jacks just require lubrication, no oil to maintain pressure.

my 4 ton jack is half engine stand, so I got to keep it maintained, LOL
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

holy crap, that's not that bad of a jack for the price. I've got a small jack that's leaking, which is annoying. I've heard things about the scissor jacks not really being for regular maintenance.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

If by regular maintenance you mean using it everyday? NO. But 1 honda oem jack, and 4 3 ton stands and you're golden for recreational use. I use my jack only 3-6 times a year, tire rotations, oil change (keep my cars level) speedy yes, P.I.T.A. to lug around, 90lbs. The oem scissor jacks became a need because I had ground controls and couldn't fit anything else underneath.

EDIT: skip that jack, too many negative reviews.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

Yeah that makes sense, I've been working on a lot of cars lately, though I don't do too much which needs me to get under the car. Thanks man, thanks for the quick replies too.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

No prob, Why Don't you go back to the SOB thread no more? I could go for some mac and cheese, stupid diet, LOL! Also. I made an album of my ladies, Check it out sometime.

Those harbor freights look good!

Ebay Odyssey, Ridgeline, or Passport jacks, so you get one with some weight capacity.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

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Generic 2 Tons, they're enough for cars. Harbor's good, Been thinking about these to match my ... 4 ton truck jack



There are stronger jacks, I personally can't think of anything else better for the money. And stop answering that thread, not worth the warning.


I used to have these same stands, until I saw MULTIPLE horror stories about the pins breaking and the car came crashing down, causing serious injury.
Here's just ONE story, without any gruesome pics. Pretty sure there's a story on the STi boards where they almost took the dudes hand off
http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?t=54019

Soon as I saw those stories, I went out and got these aluminum ones.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200313386_200313386?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Auto%20Repair-_-Jacks-_-144441&ci_sku=144441&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw={keyword}
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

The sob thread is still alive? haha I haven't been posting because of school.

Holy crap I've been using these for years with my dad, what the hell.
As much as I love them. I don't want to be mounted by a prelude.
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When it comes to Jacks and other tools i only Trust Craftsman. Nothing but quality from them. Have been satisfied with their stuff for years. I personally use a 3ton Craftsman jack.
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Harbors alluminum racing jacks are good for the price
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I have a set with the solid slide Pin setup, I only use in conjunction with my jack. The American versions migh have kicked ass, but those yellows have made in china on them. Damn sears. Look like I'm stopping off at northern tool for some stands.

Subarus don't look like they weigh 8000lbs, gotta do some reading... BRB.
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

Hey, people need to know about car lifting equipment. I didn't have any idea about the ratcheting pin stands. I mean Brian and me used ours all the time, but he can cosign, I didn't like they worked. I need to search for the Engine swap thread, I posted DIY wooden jack stands in there.

Also I think I'm gonna look into the double safety stands too. I don't wanna be "Final Destinationed", LOL!

EDIT:

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DIY wood block jack stands (cribbing blocks) to support the car

some pics too:




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Re: Buying my first jack set!

Also a VERY easy safety backup for in case the jack fails/car falls off the jack....
as soon as you take the wheel off, wedge it underneath the car as far back as it goes.

Then if the jack were to fail, it'd be resting on the rim. It's better to fuk up one/two of your rims, rather than your life
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

^^^^ +1 i always do that with my old steelies. I remember my stupid friend used an emergency jack to pull off a wheel and do something with his brakes?? regardless, **** fell and slammed on the concrete and guess who has to help him lift up a car
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True too. Even if it buys you another 20 seconds to GTFO from under a car or away from the side, that's a lifetime in comparison to being crippled, with no going back.

On continued research, I found a couple of instruction PDF files on ratchet style. The main clause they have is to not "drop the vehicle on the stand." Take it in for service/replacement and replace unit for your safety.
This makes sense. I've done this in combination with scissor jacks that rest the car onto the stand, or I can raise the stand until it touches the chassis then lock it. I know speedy lift jacks drop the car, even with my sears pro jack, the handle 1/4" turn left drops the car too fast.

You guys think this is bullsh!t excuse? Or merit? I've been gentle with stands because too fast a drop meant the would fall over under my car then car falls on stand = NO ME GUSTA. I'm still looking for cotter pin style stands. Anyone else wanna shed light, I cant use wood cribbed. Locks during brake repair, LOL!

EDIT: Here's what I've been reading. The terminology is DYNAMIC LOADING
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_dynamics

http://www.northerntool.com/download...als/155717.pdf

http://partsmadeeasy.com/manuals/313...tands%20A1.pdf

http://c.sears.com/assets/own/00950182e.pdf
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Re: Buying my first jack set!

You're totally right about the floor jacks not letting the cars down very slowly. I almost feel like the cars are going to blow a strut when I mess up letting a jack down. My neighbor across the street has a really nice jack that works amazing. As for stands I'll see what I can find, one of the reasons I made the thread was because of the **** welds on my dad's set of cheap stands.
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