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Old 02-25-2012, 01:25 PM
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Should I buy this?

hey guys!, once again i need some advice.

so I've come across this guy that is selling an H22a4 engine, unfortunately the block is damaged so i don't want it but i requested for just the head and he's willing to just sell me the head for $100. his Lude was in a front end accident and the engine only had 88km (51 miles) on it.

here's my dilemma...i don't know how to build a head but i definitely want to learn and have been doing a little research. should i buy it for the learning experience? i have a helms manual that i can refer to but my major concern right now is how can i tell if the head itself is in good condition and what should i look for and what parts should i make sure i take with me when i remove the head? i'm going to take it off the block sometime next week. My plan is to work on building it in the spring/summer. haven't decided if i want to boost or N/A yet and building a block will come later. i'm in no rush to get this done since the stock engine in my Lude right now is still good.

is $100 for a H22a4 head a good price?

here's the add:

2001 Honda Prelude H22a4 Engine w/ 88k kms - Calgary Engine, Engine Parts For Sale - Kijiji Calgary Canada.


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Re: Should I buy this?

thats a great price. When building a head u can polish the ports. Upgrade the valves and valve train. It makes a huge difference in performance.
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thats a great price. When building a head u can polish the ports. Upgrade the valves and valve train. It makes a huge difference in performance.
yeah i've read that a port and polish will help with performance. i plan on upgrading the head and since i am in no rush i can slowly invest into it. want to get it done right the first time! do you know of any sites or links where i can do more research and learn more about how to build a head?
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Re: Should I buy this?

Rule of thumb, if you have to ask... don't. Live my life by those simple words and it helps me out in the long run, ohh and BTW hope I didn't come across as a douche' but unless an item jumps out at you and you feel 100% don't worry bout it.
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Re: Should I buy this?

Well look up anything about 3 angle or 5 angle valve jobs. Cams and retainers. Head work pays off Talk to your local machine shop. Youtube might have some good info. I personally have a ferrea valve train in the head that i built up. Came out great. 1mm oversized valves. Trying to get my motor completed. U'll learn something, and for 150 u can beat that. Maybe try and buy the whole thing and use it for parts. Keep em for urself or sell the hard to find stuff.
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Rule of thumb, if you have to ask... don't. Live my life by those simple words and it helps me out in the long run, ohh and BTW hope I didn't come across as a douche' but unless an item jumps out at you and you feel 100% don't worry bout it.
haha no worries you didn't come off as a douche. i completely understand where your coming from and i appreciate it.

i'm taking this as a learning experience. for $100 to actually get to play with an engine and to physically see it's components hands on and not just in a diagram seems to be pretty good.

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Well look up anything about 3 angle or 5 angle valve jobs. Cams and retainers. Head work pays off Talk to your local machine shop. Youtube might have some good info. I personally have a ferrea valve train in the head that i built up. Came out great. 1mm oversized valves. Trying to get my motor completed. U'll learn something, and for 150 u can beat that. Maybe try and buy the whole thing and use it for parts. Keep em for urself or sell the hard to find stuff.
thank you very much. it's definitely motivating to have someone point you in the right direction.

i might consider buying the whole engine from him if he lets it off for cheap. no harm in learning more, plus like you said i can always part it and sell some of the parts.
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Yes you should. lol
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Re: Should I buy this?

Hell yes. LOL But seriously assuming the head is good thats a sweet deal...
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thats a great price. When building a head u can polish the ports. Upgrade the valves and valve train. It makes a huge difference in performance.
I have heard and read that port and polish isn't a great method. I, like many was inclined to believe it would yield significant gains n/a or turbo. What I believe is not set in stone. I am by no means a car genius; however, increasing the ports will indeed increase the flow of air and fuel. Theoretically we want as much air and fuel as possible. But this larger consumption of air is only beneficial at higher rpms and heavily reduces our torque at lower rpms. In most racing and driving applications we partake in as prelude/honda owners we want all the torque we can get. In little short sprint races and quarter miles its all about torque. The port would help u keep up with a mustang on a long stretch of highway, out would be worse than stock going up against a sentra spec v or rsx type s at a red light. U need to rev so high it would only be beneficial if your block was built...pricey ****, connecting rods and sleeve...also polishing can hurt power...ideally you want ripples to catch droplets of fuel so it evaporates fasterand even redirect fuel and airflow to have it reangle and redirect for maxium efficiency...like the ripples on a golf bowl. Imagine playing a hole of golf with an undimpled ball, that's what racing with polished ports would be like. A strategically textured port will perform better than one with a mirror finish imo...
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Re: Should I buy this?

And yes, for $100 def buy the head, could imagine getting a head any cheaper, I sure couldn't
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well i'm very disappointed. the guy that agreed to sell the head to me, which we agreed that i would go pick it up Friday just emailed me to tell me he just sold the whole engine. guess i'll have to keep looking for another head......
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I hate it when they do that..
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I got a jdm h22a ill sell u for same price.... It's in great condition... But I'm from tx... And the shipping would probably be insane!
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I hate it when they do that..
I know it happens but it just sucks. I've been looking around for another but can't find any with about the same kilometers for about the same price

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I got a jdm h22a ill sell u for same price.... It's in great condition... But I'm from tx... And the shipping would probably be insane!
Thank you for that generous offer but your right, shipping would probably cost more than the head.

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