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This was copied from SDPrelude but being an exclusive site that only people with a Lude from San Diego County can join, this really should be available to all. Credit goes to Dave for originally posting it.

I don't know how many of you know this but the S2000 oil filter fits on H22 as well as many other Hondas. It's slightly smaller and contributes a few more psi in oil pressure. I know when it comes to oil filters, the difference between Prelude and S2000 filters is negligible. The real difference is in the brand or quality of the filter you buy. But as everyone should know, Walmart has the cheapest ****. You MUST read the links below!


17 oil filters compared:
Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources

Tied to the one above:
Opinions and Recommendations - Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources


Prelude Bosch D3312


S2000 Bosch D3300


Difference in size between Prelude and S2000 filters:








For additional information on filter comparisons, click below or view the chart.
http://www.fleetfilter.com/filter-comparisons.html




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The smaller the filter, supposedly, the stronger the walls UNDER pressure, like start up and VTEC, and high revving. The more filter pleats you add, the better distribution of force, and more surface area for filtration. Yes the pressure is higher, but the smaller filter can take it.

I'm glad Purolator Pure one's and Mobil Extended performance are above acceptable(they cost $$$$ LOL). Doing a cross reference of parts for oil filters for my cars, Quaker state, Penzoil, Stp and Fram (orange death) are the same. WIX / NAPA GOLD Same, Figure a standard now, IT'S THOSE DAMN AMSOIL BALDWIN HASTING FILTERS I CANT FIND!

I would also like to add I will never exceed 5000 miles on any store bought filter. I spend the additional loot for the 2000 extra miles, and monitor the crap out of them, to insure the filter didn't fail. With synthetic oil, been staying clean.

I've suggested in the past of keeping a logbook detailing the oil life between oil changes, seeing if it gets dirty faster, or oil loss, or failed filter. Two quick articles on the relevance of cheap(er) filters and why any driver should monitor the dipstick.

Diagnosing Engine Oil Filters with Collapsed Center Tubes

Engine Oil Filter Function - A look inside the oil filter

All filters come with a Warranty and different forms of coverage, statues of limitations an some additional protection that varies from state to state, the brand you use, you should be informed on how to apply a claim, and know if you extend your intervals, you might void your filter warranty coverage. Just another part in deciding your filter company.

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Should you have additional questions about our oil filters, please phone our Oil Filter Hotline at 1-800-882-0890 for assistance. Hours are Monday to Friday, 7 am to 7 pm (Central Standard Time), and on Saturdays from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. (CST).

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U.S. Product Assistance - Call 1.800.890.2075
Option 1 Customer Service
Option 2 FRAM / Autolite for Application & Technical Information
Option 3 Radiator Cap and Thermostat for Application & Technical Information
Option 4 Prestone for Application & Technical Information
Option 5 Blink Technical Information & Product Issues
Option 6 Invoice and Statement Questions or Copies
Option 7 Catalog Fulfillment for Request Catalogs

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info@baldwinfilter.com

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Phone: (800) 822-5394
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Fax: (800) 828-4453

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800-887-8836 or 308-233-9429
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AMSOIL

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/Warranty_Filters.pdf

K&N

K&N Oil Filter Warranty Information

Dunno if WIX/NAPA gold are any different than the AMSOIL,
BUT HERE ANYWAY
NAPA

NAPA Filters : Contacts

PUROLATOR

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...edWarranty.pdf

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Thanks man, good read, someone really room some time on all that
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Re: Guide to Prelude/S2000 Oil Filters

I always get Fram! And stupid question; when you say it contributes a few more psi in oil pressure is that a big enough difference to where it would be better to get an S2K oil filter next time I do a change?
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Re: Guide to Prelude/S2000 Oil Filters

I work at a Honda dealership, so I get free HGP oil filters, although a buddy gave me a HAMP filter to try out. It's made in Japan for high-revving engines.. More specifically type-S/R's.
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What's the benefit to having higher oil pressure by using a smaller filter?
I can only imagine it would get VTEC to kick in sooner after start-up, which seems like a bad idea. VTEC is determined by oil pressure and not engine temp, right?
Also, a smaller filter means smaller surface area of the filter element, so wouldn't oil flow be somewhat more restricted?
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Re: Guide to Prelude/S2000 Oil Filters

This stuff is confusing but intriguing at the same time....more info please!
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Yeah so maybe Fram isn't the best choice huh? So what kind of oil filters do you guys use? Does anyone use an S2K filter?
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Re: Guide to Prelude/S2000 Oil Filters

Purolator or the Champion Labs(Mobil 1 or K&N gold) these can be store bought

Wix Dana Napa gold If it was an emergency. These are great on sale. 45.00 /change is good piece of mind. And honestly, if you can, do the changes yourself. At least youll know it's done right.
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gonna try OEM honda s2k filter next oil change
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How much do oem honda fioters run now? I've been using fram XG for awhile now
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Always knew Fram was garbage and I always used Wix just cause my dad always did... Turns out, he was right.
I tried to get a Honda filter the other day and it was $17... I got a Wix instead.
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^^^truth^^^ eBay wix filters. If you know the cross reference #s, you can get a box of 12 for 48.00, which is crazy cheap when napa auto wants 6.50/ filter. If I didn't hoard Mobil 1 filters when they were on sale(9.00/filter), I'd use Wix on my car, Hastings on my truck.
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Merged the posts with info and added another link+chart.
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So what's good and available at walmarts/oreillys/autozone? I see nothing but fram and bosch
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3-2-2012Right now, You can stock up on K&N filters at autobarn.com. 9.95 each, they're usually 13.95 due to the Lug nut on top. Shipping is free after 50.00, so buy a couple and wipers or something. They also have an online discount for above 125$ purchases. I'm near one so tomorrow... $$$!

http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-part/...110-oil-filter

http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-part/...312-oil-filter

http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-part/...334-oil-filter

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Purolator are in Walmart, and go for about 9-something, I'm used to 11.00 locally.

Start looking in March & April at Napa parts store for spring cleaning sales on the Napa Gold Filters. I'll try to keep this post current to the calendar, hopefully!

Bosch filters aren't bad, buy them in Pepboy oil change specials. Try to stay with the same oil company. Reilly's, Strauss Auto, are limited to regions so I can't say. Autozone is an every week thing.
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2-7-2012Right now, You can stock up on K&N filters at autobarn.com. 9.95 each, they're usually 13.95 due to the Lug nut on top. Shipping is free after 50.00, so buy a couple and wipers or something. They also have an online discount for above 125$ purchases. I'm near one so tomorrow... $$$!

Purolator are in Walmart, and go for about 9-something, I'm used to 11.00 locally.

Start looking in March & April at Napa parts store for spring cleaning sales on the Napa Gold Filters. I'll try to keep this post current to the calendar, hopefully!

Bosch filters aren't bad, buy them in Pepboy oil change specials. Try to stay with the same oil company. Reilly's, Strauss Auto, are limited to regions so I can't say. Autozone is an every week thing.
Since when are you the oil expert brah?
I like it.
Actually we just need a thread dedicated to posting sales either in stores or online.

By the way, the same filter is $9.99 on Jegs.com right now.
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Either the K&N Wrench Off! if you got synthetic oil or the K&N Pro Series which i currently have on my car, was only 5.99 at Autozone. Can't beat that deal. But was special ordered got it next day!
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Since when are you the oil expert brah?
I like it.
Actually we just need a thread dedicated to posting sales either in stores or online.

By the way, the same filter is $9.99 on Jegs.com right now.

Thats a good ass idea!! It would be a very frequently used thread but I dont know how to start something like that so I'll just leave it to the pros

And yeah, when my new oil pan comes in I will be putting a wix in forsure!
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What's the benefit to having higher oil pressure by using a smaller filter?
I can only imagine it would get VTEC to kick in sooner after start-up, which seems like a bad idea. VTEC is determined by oil pressure and not engine temp, right?
Also, a smaller filter means smaller surface area of the filter element, so wouldn't oil flow be somewhat more restricted?
Yes, yes and yes.
1. The trick is finding the balance. YOU NEED A filter that has a rigid body to withstand the engine's pressure. The shorter the body the better.

2. The starting of the car puts 100% pressure through the oil system to minimize the cold start. The tach is slow, but the RPMs reach up to 4500 on turn over. You need your filter to consistently perform under that condition, as well as through VTEC/redline.

3. Race teams put 3" hose clamps around the filter for one reason. Filters POP under race conditions. Cave in is unlikely since oil is always pushing on the filter's walls, so it's a little security to keep from destroying a $150,000 engine. Also keep in mind, the minimal oil required= no additional weight, so the race team want smallest filters.

Day to day on the other hand, more capacity=more protection. Truckers use oil relocation kits with 1,2, or even 3 filters and change oil every 30,000 45,000 miles, and the oil is still clean. The filter element makes or breaks the quality of the filter. If one filter traps 80% of particles and another 95%, the answer is simple. If the flow is not good enough on the better filter, that is also a problem.
You need to evaluate your driving habits to choose a filter. I know I'm in heavy traffic day in/out. I need that oil clean. Nothing else matters. I also know stop and go traffic won't pop a filter, so I'm good. Your needs might need a high flow filter and you drive 150 miles with out 1 stoplight, and you're just above idle. When you got that figured out, your oil will stay newer longer.
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Awesome info. Right when I'm about to do some seafoaming and an oil change.

I agree there should be a thread for DEALS OF THE WEEK or something to help us all out.
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I just saw a video of the Honda oiL filter and I am REALLY DISSAPOINTED. Made out of paper and cardboard wtf.
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Wow never knew there was so much to a simple oil filter! Glad to have found this thread. It's gonna save my engine from that sh*tty fram filter for good
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Dimensions of the Prelude filter:
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Exa...x?PartNo=51334


S2K Filter cross references:
Bosch D3300
Wix 51365
Hastings LF113
Fram PH9715
Motorcraft FL816

Dimensions:
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Exa...x?PartNo=51365
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Always knew Fram was garbage and I always used Wix just cause my dad always did... Turns out, he was right.
I tried to get a Honda filter the other day and it was $17... I got a Wix instead.
Wow what dealer tried to rape you for $17.00 for a filter? We sell genuine honda filters at work(all we put on our cars, no cheap crap lol) and they are only 7.52 after tax.
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Wow what dealer tried to rape you for $17.00 for a filter? We sell genuine honda filters at work(all we put on our cars, no cheap crap lol) and they are only 7.52 after tax.
the honda i used to work at also we put on all new crush washers on every vehicle as well they came taped onto the filter so it basically came with the purchase of the filter good stuff man.
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So is the oem s2k filter good for our cars? Or should I go with k&n or wix for h22
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Re: Guide to Prelude/S2000 Oil Filters

our filters from honda dont come with the cheaper aluminum drain plug washer, because we spend more to buy the ones honda used to use always, they are the copper washers, and they cost us i think 0.28 a piece where the aluminum ones are like .15 but much less chance of stripping a oil pan out.
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