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I want to raise my Prelude to stock height

Hello, I just bought a 1998 Honda Prelude with 83k miles. The previous owner had it lowered which I didn't like. My question is, what do you recommend to raise my Prelude back to stock height? Thanks!

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Hello, I just bought a 1998 Honda Prelude with 83k miles. The previous owner had it lowered which I didn't like. My question is, what do you recommend to raise my Prelude back to stock height? Thanks!

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You sure have came to the right place . This site has plenty of from /function users here who have foolishly in my opinion dropped their street driven, 5th gen Preludes and will probably sell you the parts they removed to you for not much money unless they feel the need to hold on to it just in case they decide to sell their car or get tagged by the state inspector or a law enforcement officer in certain states.What you will need is probably just be the strut assembly for each wheel unless the previous owner made some significant mods, so you can bring your car back to its optimum performance vs practically but still very low 4 1/2 " ground clearance. Please note that the stock shocks are the long lasting, high performance, nitrogen gas type and some of the suspension components of the SH Prelude are different from the base version.

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Are there any manufacturers that you'd recommend for the strut assembly and how much do they normally cost? Thanks!

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Are there any manufacturers that you'd recommend for the strut assembly and how much do they normally cost? Thanks!

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Here is the Honda dealership where I get quality OEM parts cheap.
It appears that the strut assembly is not available so going new will not be cheap.You might want to try E-Bay if someone will not sell you theirs on this site.


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"so you can bring your car back to its optimum performance"
didnt know lifting your car helps performance lmao.. ::order 10inch lift kit::
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I have the stock suspension that I will sell you. Not really sure what is worth so just make me an offer and we will go from there. It is off a 01.
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"so you can bring your car back to its optimum performance"
didnt know lifting your car helps performance lmao.. ::order 10inch lift kit::
On the street striking objects in the road has tendency to slow a car down as well as disturbing its handling characteristics.

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Stock height is the best compromise between street comfortability and ride handling, lower isn't necessarily better, but stock height isn't going to be the best either.
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see, now there is an open minded, well informed, intelligent, and unbiased of all things, response^ thank you shatterbox

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This site has plenty of from /function users here who have foolishly in my opinion dropped their street driven, 5th gen Preludes
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i've asked this in a different thread but you never answered me. where the hell do you live that there is actually a problem with objects in the streets? my car is lowered and has been for 5 years (or more i don't remember) and i haven't hit a DAMN thing. everything that is larger then the height of my car i can see just fine. if you can't see stuff as big as the height of your car, you are blind and need glasses. even on the german autobahn driving 85-90mph, i can see leaves from several hundred feet away. so if i can see a leave, hell even cracks, i'm sure i can see something that would severely damage my car.

also, in that video, that guy is an idiot. it isn't like everyone lowers their car that much and goes to the auto'x event. also the pavement is uneven, so i'll give him some benefit of the doubt that he probably doesn't have those problems on normal, fairly even roads. either way the guy is an idiot for lowering that much. no decent half witted person drives on the street with their car that low. and standard lowering kits won't bring you that low. you have to get an adjustable kit. which will usually let you go back up to stock height or near it.

so, quit peddling that drivel you call being informed. it's all misinformation and half truths. yes, lowering kit, yes your handling characteristics get disturbed. so does adding air to your tires, so does filling your gas tank, so does accel/braking in turns, and hell, so does putting something in the passenger seat or in your trunk changes your handling characteristics. but i bet that doesn't keep you from doing all that, does it? you have got to be the most arrogant, egotistical jerk i've ever known. you must be totally in love with yourself. and a lowering kit (even a cheep name brand one) will change your handling characteristics for the better. lots of research goes into making those shocks and springs. i've said it before, so i'll say it again. if you think your STOCK SH is SOOOOO superior, i would willingly bet my automatic base against your stock SH. i'll even keep my heavier then stock wheels and my 15lb bowling ball in the trunk.
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It's not my intention to start a war here. Yes, lowering the Prelude does look good and it does perform better than stock height. However, I hit too many bumps and it gets really annoying. I am willing to compromise and meet somewhere between lower and stock height.

From my so-called research, I see that it is hard to find springs and struts for the SH model. Any recommendations? It's a 1998. Thanks.

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Re: I want to raise my Prelude to stock height

Just buy new/used stock SH springs/shocks. or dish out the money for a decent full coilover setup and have the option to set your own height - but you have to be sure it's for an SH.

1.5" drop is enough to clear all speed bumps around my area without going sideways - but that's the most i'm willing to go.
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Beaker, let me just say i LOVE you for your responses to him

to OP. stock suspensions are on ebay all the time, but you dont know exactly how good of condition a used one is. another option for you is to get the mugen suspension. its made for SH's. its a little lower than stock, but lets you still be drivable anywhere. my godmother has the same kit on her SH and she drives from FL to CT all the time
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Whoa, Mugen Suspension kit looks nice but it is about $1,800. No offense to hardcore 'luders, I don't want to spend that much. I just want to get rid of the crap suspension system I have that was installed by the previous owner. 1.2 - 1.5 inch drop is fine as long the ride is soft and goes over speed bumps without having to go sideways.
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thanks upslude. you know it's one thing to be an advocate for something. i don't have a problem with that that's your god given first amendment right and hell, i fight for those rights. but it's completely something different to call people foolish who don't agree with you. and he wonders why he's been banned from practically EVER other prelude site.

digizure: who makes the suspension you have right now?

the stock ride, imo is pretty harsh still for a stock ride height. any time you go lower, out of necessity the ride height is going to be stiffer. that being said, the only susp. i've came across that's even close to stock ride quality that is actually lower is the tokico blues kit. however, it did lower a bit uneven to my tastes. the back dropped more then the front.
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thanks upslude. you know it's one thing to be an advocate for something. i don't have a problem with that that's your god given first amendment right and hell, i fight for those rights. but it's completely something different to call people foolish who don't agree with you. and he wonders why he's been banned from practically EVER other prelude site.

digizure: who makes the suspension you have right now?

the stock ride, imo is pretty harsh still for a stock ride height. any time you go lower, out of necessity the ride height is going to be stiffer. that being said, the only susp. i've came across that's even close to stock ride quality that is actually lower is the tokico blues kit. however, it did lower a bit uneven to my tastes. the back dropped more then the front.
you kno your stuff bro help me out i love my car low but i bought the car with an avenger kit on it da guy messed up his front avenger bumper so he put the stock one back in there now i have 2 huge side skirts and a big back bumper i want stock bumpers where can i get them i have 16" s2000 rims should i just get 17s n rise up just a lil or get all stock bumpers? pls share ur kowdlege am a super noob at the moment of me owning my first sports car
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I would just get another avenger front end from vis racing. Since the previous owner decided to mold the rear kit on the car it will probably be a lot cheaper to just stay with the kit instead of going with factory bumpers. You can get the front end from vis racing for $ 389.00

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i dont like this kit i like the stock with a lip kit look i mean i love the car like the color and the kit is ok but its starting to crack or it has wen i bought it am thinking bout buying all stock bumpers n paiting whole car same color then getting a lip kit to paint the whole car same color guy sed 1000 n 400 for shaved door kit what du u guys think?
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If you like the stock bumpers with lip kit and can get it for a good price with painting the whole car go for it. All that matters in the end is that your happy since it is your car and it suits your taste. I do like the color I saw one around me the same color but all stock and no lip kit. I had to follow it for 3 blocks to get a good look at it.

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hahahahaah i followed a midnight blue one for like 3 blocks right after i got out the gym just to feel like i was riding with another rare lude on the road it was hooked up nicely n i kno it was not stock ounce we hit the interstate road it i heard the turbo sound music to my ears
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insulting and talking down on members of this forum is highly frowned upon. calling people who lower their cars fools is really not appreciated. thank you, good bye!!


i've asked this in a different thread but you never answered me. where the hell do you live that there is actually a problem with objects in the streets? my car is lowered and has been for 5 years (or more i don't remember) and i haven't hit a DAMN thing. everything that is larger then the height of my car i can see just fine. if you can't see stuff as big as the height of your car, you are blind and need glasses. even on the german autobahn driving 85-90mph, i can see leaves from several hundred feet away. so if i can see a leave, hell even cracks, i'm sure i can see something that would severely damage my car.

also, in that video, that guy is an idiot. it isn't like everyone lowers their car that much and goes to the auto'x event. also the pavement is uneven, so i'll give him some benefit of the doubt that he probably doesn't have those problems on normal, fairly even roads. either way the guy is an idiot for lowering that much. no decent half witted person drives on the street with their car that low. and standard lowering kits won't bring you that low. you have to get an adjustable kit. which will usually let you go back up to stock height or near it.

so, quit peddling that drivel you call being informed. it's all misinformation and half truths. yes, lowering kit, yes your handling characteristics get disturbed. so does adding air to your tires, so does filling your gas tank, so does accel/braking in turns, and hell, so does putting something in the passenger seat or in your trunk changes your handling characteristics. but i bet that doesn't keep you from doing all that, does it? you have got to be the most arrogant, egotistical jerk i've ever known. you must be totally in love with yourself. and a lowering kit (even a cheep name brand one) will change your handling characteristics for the better. lots of research goes into making those shocks and springs. i've said it before, so i'll say it again. if you think your STOCK SH is SOOOOO superior, i would willingly bet my automatic base against your stock SH. i'll even keep my heavier then stock wheels and my 15lb bowling ball in the trunk.
drew this is his second ban, just go ahead and make it permanent. It's a damn shame that someone with this much passion for the prelude is completely useless. I for one have had enough of his misguided information.
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this is true, ogs.

as for stockluder. please use punctuation. it's really hard to determine where your sentences end and begin.

if you have the money, i would go with the stock bumpers. however, dude, it's totally up to you. if you want to do stock bumpers, a good place to start looking is ebay. compare prices with what you might get from the honda parts sites like hondaautomotiveparts.com, majestichonda.com, slhonda.com, etc. honestly, you'll find some pretty cheap prices on those sites sometimes. check the for sale threads on this site. there is almost always someone parting out a lude. junkyards are a great place too. unless the car has been in a serious front end or rear end collision.

personally i love the s2k wheels. but i would go with 17's for my own personal reasons. there isn't any technical advantage to 17's if anything it's a slight disadvantage because they're usually heavier. if you get 17's it won't require you to raise the car any. as long as you keep a similar sized (height) tire. a 215/40/17 is the most appropriate size for a 17" wheel. and it's actually slightly smaller then the standard size for the 16's. so it will appear as if your car is slightly lower. you can go with the 215/45/17 if you like the slightly beefier tire look. but it it a slightly taller tire then the stock tires. (205/50/16)

what kind of suspension do you have on it right now?
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My buddie recently blew his 5th gen in kentucky. Drunk driving/Went into 4 foot puddle at WOT. Anyways i believe he is concidering parting her out. Shes a 98 complete stock with all oem equipment. Only had like 129k so im assuming stock struts are in good condition, depending on driver use. But ill def get in touch with him and ask the condition and try n get a price quote for ya.
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wow good info and thankx guys. i love this site more everyday now i kno what coilovers r lmao. and ill look on these sites to c if i find anything
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I have no idea what suspension system is under there. There are no brand name on springs or struts. The only thing I know is the fact that they suck bad. I just got the Prelude smog checked and it passed. Whew! The only thing I need to do left is to get rid of the suspension system and put a new one in. I think I will go with 1.2 lowering kit because I will be compromising between stock height and lowering for better handling (and it looks a bit better).

I don't want to spend too much money so do you know where I could get a good deal on a system? Call me crazy but I'd like to spend up to $500.00 for a reasonable system... doesn't have to be top of the line performance whatchamalit.

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if you don't know what brand, can you at least tell me what color they are? every company has a different color more or less. for only 500, you're really not gonna find much. maybe check out tein, i dunno. it was a while ago when i bought the tokicos but i think it was around 400ish for their set. and it lowered about 1.2" or so. again, the ride quality was pretty similar to stock. as far as a performance improvement, i couldn't really tell. if you really only want to spend 500, you might be forced to do the mix and match route. that seems to be a pretty popular route on this site. it's effective and cheap. but on some setups, the ride quality, (as far as i've experienced) can be pretty rough. my setup is pretty wicked. very stiff. but it's adjustable in height. i only spent 800 on it. and by the way, i'm thinking about selling and upgrading to their higher end setup. if i decide to sell them, i'll sell them to you for 400. but i won't officially decide till tax season... if you want to wait that long.
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see, now there is an open minded, well informed, intelligent, and unbiased of all things, response^ thank you shatterbox

insulting and talking down on members of this forum is highly frowned upon. calling people who lower their cars fools is really not appreciated. thank you, good bye!!


i've asked this in a different thread but you never answered me. where the hell do you live that there is actually a problem with objects in the streets? my car is lowered and has been for 5 years (or more i don't remember) and i haven't hit a DAMN thing. everything that is larger then the height of my car i can see just fine. if you can't see stuff as big as the height of your car, you are blind and need glasses. even on the german autobahn driving 85-90mph, i can see leaves from several hundred feet away. so if i can see a leave, hell even cracks, i'm sure i can see something that would severely damage my car.

also, in that video, that guy is an idiot. it isn't like everyone lowers their car that much and goes to the auto'x event. also the pavement is uneven, so i'll give him some benefit of the doubt that he probably doesn't have those problems on normal, fairly even roads. either way the guy is an idiot for lowering that much. no decent half witted person drives on the street with their car that low. and standard lowering kits won't bring you that low. you have to get an adjustable kit. which will usually let you go back up to stock height or near it.

so, quit peddling that drivel you call being informed. it's all misinformation and half truths. yes, lowering kit, yes your handling characteristics get disturbed. so does adding air to your tires, so does filling your gas tank, so does accel/braking in turns, and hell, so does putting something in the passenger seat or in your trunk changes your handling characteristics. but i bet that doesn't keep you from doing all that, does it? you have got to be the most arrogant, egotistical jerk i've ever known. you must be totally in love with yourself. and a lowering kit (even a cheep name brand one) will change your handling characteristics for the better. lots of research goes into making those shocks and springs. i've said it before, so i'll say it again. if you think your STOCK SH is SOOOOO superior, i would willingly bet my automatic base against your stock SH. i'll even keep my heavier then stock wheels and my 15lb bowling ball in the trunk.
Thank you for every bit of that, Beaker. Funny stuff: "I'll even keep my bowling ball in the trunk"
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plus u can sell ur kit that u have on ur prelude now and with that money get another one, dont throw them away there worth something
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Ok, I had to get the Prelude jacked up a bit so I now know I have Espelir springs and Excel struts. It seems like a lot of people are happy with Espelir springs so I guess they are decent enough to keep. Three of my shocks are either almost worn out or no good so I think I will replace them with either Tokico Blues or KYB AGX and keep the springs. That should raise the car up a little bit and I shouldn't have problems going over speed bumps.

Does this sound about right? Thanks again for all of your inputs.

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i would sell those espelir springs. their strong suit is definitely not suspension. this is just my opinion though, i wouldn't really buy suspension from a company who dabbles in more then one aspect of car modification. that simply means their R&D money get split up. also they don't even make shocks for their springs. so i would expect their springs to have very little R&D, not offer any real handling improvement and just be a good bit stiffer then stock springs. i dunno though. you're the one with the springs, so tell me how rough it is. remember the spring is going to have more of an effect on the ride quality then the shocks. you could have the stiffest spring in the world and no amount of shock absorption will soften it. my buddy bought springs like that from a similar company who just sold springs and no shocks. every crack in the road felt like you were driving over a 2 inch curb in the road. espelir is a fine company and they make quality products. but i've always known them to make great exhaust systems. not suspension components. most importantly a shock and spring build to work together are going to give you the best compromise between ride quality and handling. personally i think that's why kits or coilovers are the way to go. but it's totally up to you.

as for the excel shocks, are you talking about the kyb excel? no experience with them. but anything from kyb is good quality
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Argh! I hope this will be my last post on this topic...

I don't have enough $$$ to go with a spring/strut replacement because I will be replacing the brake pad (Akebono) and rotor (Centric or Mountain Japan) while I'm at it. All four of my struts needs to be replaced ASAP - three of them are blown. I'm thinking about getting Tein S springs in the future (I now have Espelir Springs). Are there struts that would work with the current spring set up and Tein S for later?

I'm just a daily driver and want the car lowered between 1.2 to 1.5"

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