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Old 10-12-2011, 11:04 PM
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Head work

Needed to get my head milled, so I checked into a local mopar shop that has been nationally recognized. Reason being they are local and my dad knows the owner. They said they had no problem working on my Honda.

Over the phone, I was quoted roughly $60 for the milling and $48 for an underwater pressure test.

I asked about magnaflux, but he said that they bolt a plate to the head and pressurize it under water so the leaks turn into bubbles. It seemed like a good way to find leaks to me and they've been around forever, so they must be doing something right.

I know for a fact the prices are more than reasonable. My problem is with valve clearance. The man I talked to recommended I use a head gasket as thick as or thicker than what they have to take off. I already knew this would probably have to happen. Problem is, I can't find a thicker gasket for the h23?

I know cometic will custom make it, but that's pretty expensive.

Any other routes?

Also, I was wondering how ARP studs are torqued since they aren't bolts? From my understanding, they can be re-used as much as I want instead of buying mass Honda head bolts.

Since they're studs, does that mean I screw them in the block as tight as I can with my hands and then torque the nuts on according to the specs and sequence?

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Re: Head work

IDK how much thicker Cometic will make the gasket. Even with something thinner it would just increase the compression by a small margin. However, you really want to make sure that there is enough clearance between the valves and the crowns of the pistons. As for the ARP studs there is an allen head hex in the top of the stud. You can torque them to oem specs. Both cometic and arp are reusable. you have to keep the same side up with the cometic if you decide to reuse it.
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IDK how much thicker Cometic will make the gasket. Even with something thinner it would just increase the compression by a small margin. However, you really want to make sure that there is enough clearance between the valves and the crowns of the pistons. As for the ARP studs there is an allen head hex in the top of the stud. You can torque them to oem specs. Both cometic and arp are reusable. you have to keep the same side up with the cometic if you decide to reuse it.
I'm pretty sure they'd make it as thick as I wanted it. I know thinner would increase compression, but I'm pretty sure the head has been milled before and I don't want clearance issues. That's why I'm looking at cometic since it looks like the only option. They only go on one way, so it wouldn't be possible to not put it on the same way and have it work properly.

For the ARP studs, I'm getting them solely because they are reusable. I just didn't know how they worked. So you just tighten the stud in as tight as possible with a normal allen wrench and then torque the nut to spec?
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Probably a lot easier to get a new head.
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Probably a lot easier to get a new head.
Probably cost twice as much. Money is a big factor. I may not even fix it. I'm doing cost estimates now. If it's too much, I'll have to sell my baby and get something else. I'm on a poor college student's budget. I think what I'm doing is the cheapest route.
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Re: Head work

you should be able to score a h23 head for under 100 bucks
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you should be able to score a h23 head for under 100 bucks
Well I haven't found one. Plus, it would be used, not new, which means I'll have the same concerns and more. At least I know mine has a good valve train and new valve guide seals.
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Probably cost twice as much. Money is a big factor. I may not even fix it. I'm doing cost estimates now. If it's too much, I'll have to sell my baby and get something else. I'm on a poor college student's budget. I think what I'm doing is the cheapest route.
Just stick with it dude. I was in your spot a couple years ago. Believe me, when you get out of college, and have money, ALOT of other cars start to look reaaallly good...

Still wish I didn't have the problems that I had with mine though :( I really did love that car.

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