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Old 09-18-2011, 10:38 AM
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Replace piston rings or buy new engine

Hi everyone,
as the not so creative title suggests, i am trying to determine whether i should replace the very worn rings in my engine or to buy an engine with a lower milage on it. (125xxx miles). At this stage I am leaning towards the new engine. Any feedback will be appreciated.
Btw i own a 5th gen with an h22a4 engine.
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Re: Replace piston rings or buy new engine

Just to clarify, when i said 125xxx miles. That is the milage that is currently accumulated on my engine.
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Re: Replace piston rings or buy new engine

Eh wth, get a new engine. Because once its all said and done the hassel and headache will have made it a visual distraction in the future for you, where as if you get a new block it won't stay on your shoulders, unless your into breaking down a engine and learning something new. Everyones different, I'm a outta sight outta mind kinda person. Hope w/e you choose goes well for you.
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Re: Replace piston rings or buy new engine

With rings comes more than just rings. Bearings, headgasket, I'm not going to ramble. Basically your looking at a complete rebuild. I'd say rebuild it right. Or get a new. But who knows the life the new engine has been through. My .02.
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Re: Replace piston rings or buy new engine

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With rings comes more than just rings. Bearings, headgasket, I'm not going to ramble. Basically your looking at a complete rebuild. I'd say rebuild it right. Or get a new. But who knows the life the new engine has been through. My .02.
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Lemme give you a little insight into my opinion, and how to weigh your options accordingly. - 3 things to consider here.

1- How much oil is the motor going through? Unless its > 2qts between changes, I wouldn't say it is dire need to swap/rebuild immediately. I know its a PITA, but spending $10 in oil every few months beats the hell out of a $1000 or more rebuild. I would use heavier weight gear oil to help slow the burning, and I would pocket some money over the next year or so until you figure out what path you are taking.

2- I would rebuild under these conditions - You are a) going to upgrade the pistons, rings, cam, or something internal - b) you are going to do the labor yourself - c) You have enough $$ not only to rebuild, but you have pocket money also, because something will come up unexpectedly. Rebuilds are very labor intensive, but can yield the most reward if done properly.

3- Realize that JDM motors have mileage's between 30k & upwards of 70-90k. So the motor you are getting could only be a year or two before you are in the same situation again, and you won't know until it shows up at your door on a pallet with a mileage/odometer reading from the donor it came from. Another plus here though, is that once the swap is done, you now have a H22 motor that can be sold to recoup some of the funds spent on a motor. Also, instead of going with an H22, you can go with an H23vtec, or decide to swap out to other motors that are being sold on the JDM sites. Just make sure they are compatible.

Also, something worth mentioning, is that JDM motors are OBD1, so you will have to use a jumper harness in order to convert over. So be aware this may mess with smog/inspection laws in your state. I would research OBD1 conversions & smog compatibility for whatever area you are now living in.

Hope this helped some, I'm sure I missed a lot, and others will probably chime in also. Just think about the whole picture before you make your decision.
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Re: Replace piston rings or buy new engine

Thanks for the insight guys, exactly what i was looking for.
I would love to be able to do most of the labour that goes into rebuilding the engine and upgrading pistons, cams and maybe boring it out. But my time is strained what with university and work.

It is going through about 2qts, maybe a bit more between changes, so im not planning on having to do anything for a while. Also, where i live there isn't any smog laws and changing to OBD1 doesn't affect the inspection laws either.

So, as i said in the first post a new engine is more what im interested in. Does anyone know or have dealt with any dealers or importers of engines that are reliable?

I will also be doing an automatic to manual conversion, so does anyone know a good place to buy the transmission. i already have the clutch kit, pedals, shift cables, housing and boot. The cylinders and clutch lines and fluid reservoir and the rest. Just need the transmission. Also would an H or F series be better?

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