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Hey guys

I just have a question.

I have had my 1995 2.2SE for about 4 years now.

When it comes to brakes I had to replace the rear pads twice already but the front ones still look new just like when I got the car.

Why do the rear brake pads ware down so fast but the front ones look like they never do? Don't get me wrong she stops when I need her to.

Do you know if this could be a problem or am I just being paranoid?
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Re: Brake ware

Sounds odd. Why did you "have" to replace the rear pads? Were they making noise or functioning improperly?
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Re: Brake ware

ou may have a unique situation but odds are, they rust faster. fronts are bigger and thicker to start but they are used constantly. fronts you wear down, backs decompose and fall apart. im guessing that you probably had lots of rotor there but only a hint of the pads were making contact...
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Sounds odd. Why did you "have" to replace the rear pads? Were they making noise or functioning improperly?
they were working fine, they were just worn out.

no noise, no problems, just not enough pad left.

Could it be that there is air in the font brake lines or the piston in the calipers are stuck preventing them from braking as hard as they should?

I haven't removed the front pads since i got the car because they seem fine.
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ou may have a unique situation but odds are, they rust faster. fronts are bigger and thicker to start but they are used constantly. fronts you wear down, backs decompose and fall apart. im guessing that you probably had lots of rotor there but only a hint of the pads were making contact...
that's just the thing. the rear pads did not have the time to rust or decompose. they just wear out a lot faster that I think they should and the front pads do not wear at all?
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Re: Brake ware

Maybe your rear caliper pistons are sticking and stayed in the out position. Do your brakes feel kinda squishy or soft? If so that's an indication of air in the line. Air in the lines wouldn't cause quicker wear on the pads though and you would have had wear in one of the front pad and on the oppisite rear side. I would go with sticking of the caliper pistons in the rear
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Re: Brake ware

it sounds like ur rear brakes r doing all the work and the front brakes r doing nothin im ase certified in brakes so i kno im talking about
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Re: Brake ware

It could also be your rotor. rotors do tend to warp over time, and if you are still running your old stock rotors, they are more than likely warped or shot. Try changing rotors and see if that helps. I was in this same situation when I bought my car, changed the rotors, and no I do not have any abnormal wear.
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Re: Brake ware

but his rear brakes r still doing more than their fair share of work
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Re: Brake ware

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but his rear brakes r still doing more than their fair share of work
okay, but that isn't answering his question...give him a solution, it is pretty obvious the rear brakes are working.

just because they are wearing faster does neccesarily not mean they are doing "MORE" work. They could be rubbing constantly on the rotor or, like mentioned above, the caliper could be sticking, causing the rear to wear at all times.
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Re: Brake ware

^yeah.. I would check your rotors to see if they're warped..and get them turned if they are.. That's something you can check in like 1 minute
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Re: Brake ware

ya mayb his e-brake is out of adjustment like mine
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Re: Brake ware

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ya mayb his e-brake is out of adjustment like mine
i was thinking this too. like the ebrake is stuck up or something
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Re: Brake ware

Thanks guys

I think I got it.

I realized something after reading the responses that i checked out. I raised the one side of my car and the front wheel turns with no effort at all until you step on the brakes and it stops as it should.

I then tried this with the rear wheel but there is some resistance trying to turn it...rotor are still perfect no problems there.

I did realize that my e-brake does only pull op a few clicks when I use it but never actually worried about it since I got the car.

Is seems that the e-brake cables are to tight keeping the rear brakes partly engaged all the time.

I removed the cable from the caliper and the wheel turns freely like it should until I step on the brake again.

Thanks for the help.
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it sounds like ur rear brakes r doing all the work and the front brakes r doing nothin im ase certified in brakes so i kno im talking about
You're ASE certified huh? I suppose I'll pick on you for a bit.

ASE certification does not mean jack in terms of knowing what you are talking about.

Not to mention that it doesn't take an ASE certified tech to tell you the same conclusion you came to, and stated in the above quote. I'd say it takes an intelligence quotiont equivalent to a toddler, or perhaps a very smart dog. What he is truly asking is "what is causing this problem?" He is not asking for you to state the obvious.

And finally, no one is going to give a damn what you say if you cannot even spell correctly. It is proven that people who use excessive swear words, inccorect spelling and/or grammar are perceived as less intelligent. So you could have the intelligence of Stephen Hawking and still be perceived as a dumbass, given the way you spell and your terrible sentence structure.



Back on topic...

First, before you do anything else....get any air out. If the pedal feels nice and firm and not squishy, then you should be ok and not have any air in the system. Now then, off to diagnosis...


I would say the reason for your front brakes not fully applying could be the cause of seized caliper slide bolts, or at least improperly greased slides. That could be causing them not to actuate fully.

Try this, jack up the front end, have someone hold down the brake pedal, and try to rotate the wheel. See if the brake is really grasping it. The results should make a conclusion obvious.

Second, look at your brake pads and tell me what you see. Do they look normal, or do they look off-color or shiny? Feel them, do they feel a bit rough, like they should, or do they feel slick and/or smooth? You may have glazed pads.

Also, be sure to check your parking brake and make sure that it is adjusted properly, the cause of the front brakes not applying fully may not be the fronts...it may be the rears. As in the rears are applying too much due to a misadjusted parking brake which is causing the rear pads to hang up.

I can give you the correct procedures for adjusting the parking brake, if you need them.



One more, although quite a bit more unlikely, problem is that you may have a hydraulic problem, where the ABS control module (which houses your proportioning and metering valves) may be sending all the pressure to the rear brakes, and less to the fronts. If that is the case it would be beyond me to fix it or to even recommend a fix. That would be a stealership-type repair.
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I can give you the correct procedures for adjusting the parking brake, if you need them.
Hey havikprelude

Could you please provide me with the procedures for this? I can't seem to figure this one out.
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