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Timing belt job w/ manual tensioner. Parts list

So I'm going to be doing a timing belt change soon. I've been doing research and trying to get together everything I need. I want to have all my eggs in one basket before I begin ordering parts and tools.

Hopefully this will not only help me but others as well, I see this question coming up pretty often.

This is what I have so far. According to HOW TO: H22 Auto Tensioner to H23 Manual Tensioner Conversion - Preludepower.com and ' Hit The Pavement ' :: H22 Auto to manual Timing belt tensioner Conversion I need these parts for the manual tensioner conversion.

13404-PT0-004 - ADJUSTER COMP., BALANCER BELT
13415-PT0-000 - BRACKET, BALANCER BELT ADJUSTER
14510-PT0-004 - ADJUSTER COMP., TIMING BELT
14516-PT2-000 - SPRING COMP., TIMING BELT ADJUSTER
14521-P14-A00 - PLATE, ADJUSTER
90014-P14-A00 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER BASE
90015-PT0-000 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER SPRING
90016-PT0-000 - BOLT, TIMING BELT ADJUSTER
90140-P14-A00 - WASHER, PLAIN (11MM)

I plan on ordering the kit (which comes with everything listed) here: http://www.importrp.com/product.php?productid=41997 because they have everything for mad cheap, and its all Honda OEM.

From what I've read, you can reuse some parts. I plan on reusing a bolt here or there, but I'm replacing everything that needs to be with the parts in the list.


Other than that, I know I need: (sorry, don't have part numbers for these up yet)

Timing belt
Balance shaft belt
water pump---------will I need a water pump gasket?]
balance shaft seal retainer---------will I need a balance shaft seal?]

Will I need a crank pulley holding tool? Cam pulley holding tool? Auto tensioner stopper?




Is there anything else I am missing?





Misc. Questions: How exactly do you tighten the manual tensioner? How exactly do you know when it is tight? I've read that you tighten it by pulling up on the manual tensioner, or the bracket part of it. (having trouble thinking of the right name.) And that it is tight when you can twist it just 90 degrees. Does anyone have the specific procedure for manually tightening the timing belt and balancer belts?
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Re: Timing belt job w/ manual tensioner. Parts list

Just make sure that you dont **** up your tensioner, i did that a couple of months ago and after two days of not know that it was broken my new timing belt was shaved in half, thank god the h22 is a non-interferance engine.

oh and i would get a water pump gasket, its always a good idea to replace old gaskets.
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Just make sure that you dont **** up your tensioner, i did that a couple of months ago and after two days of not know that it was broken my new timing belt was shaved in half, thank god the h22 is a non-interferance engine.

oh and i would get a water pump gasket, its always a good idea to replace old gaskets.
The H22 IS an interferance engine.

You are not helping. Shhh.
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the guy at the performance shop that i went to told me its a non-interference, my timming skiped really bad and all my valves are fine
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The H22 is an interferance engine.

Number 1. The guy at the performance shop is retarded.
Number 2. You probably got very lucky.
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damn im never going there again, though the guy has a very good reputation he has the fastest 8th gen civics in all motor and turbo class in florida and came second place in the import wars down here last year.
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damn im never going there again, though the guy has a very good reputation he has the fastest 8th gen civics in all motor and turbo class in florida and came second place in the import wars down here last year.
Maybe you misheard him, or maybe he just made a mistake and said the wrong thing. It happens.


Anyway, back to topic. I need answers to teh questions nao!!
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Timing belt
Balance shaft belt
water pump---------will I need a water pump gasket?] Usually comes with it
balance shaft seal retainer---------will I need a balance shaft seal?] Not usually necessary unless it looks bad, you'll just wanna wait and see til you get there, or say EF it and buy it if you're not short on $$

Will I need a crank pulley holding tool? Cam pulley holding tool? Auto tensioner stopper? Crank pulley tool made it 100x easier on me. I had another person helping so I didn't need the cam tool. The auto tensioner will be uncompressed when you loosen the bracket and take it off, so don't think it's like a loaded strut.




Is there anything else I am missing?





Misc. Questions: How exactly do you tighten the manual tensioner? How exactly do you know when it is tight? I've read that you tighten it by pulling up on the manual tensioner, or the bracket part of it. (having trouble thinking of the right name.) And that it is tight when you can twist it just 90 degrees. Does anyone have the specific procedure for manually tightening the timing belt and balancer belts?
Lemme look this last part up and I'll post again

EDIT: I won't have access to the Mitchell's for awhile, but if you do at your school and can look up the Tq specs on the H23 bearings and pulleys, that will be what you need. Also, be sure to put the timing belt and balance belt adjuster bearings on the right way or they'll be in contact with each other.
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Re: Timing belt job w/ manual tensioner. Parts list

Thank you so much for the reply, hopefully I can get a solid parts list together so I can start ordering parts soon. I'm not gonna do the change for another five to six weeks though, but I don't want to wait til last minute like I usually do.
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Re: Timing belt job w/ manual tensioner. Parts list

Alright, I can just look it up on Mitchell lol. Completely forgot about that. :facepalm:


Anyway, when buying the actual timing belt, I could buy it from the store link I have listed above, they have timing belts such as one from a brand called Mitsuboshi or something. I'm pretty sure all their parts are oem or oem equivalent, but does it sound like a risk?

I don't like risk. It's cheaper than majestic, but if you guys think I should lean towards the safe side I'll just buy the two belts and water pump from majestic.

Whaddaya think?
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I just ordered everything I needed off Import Replacement Parts, cuz you're spending $90 already on the conversion kit, and if you spend over $100 you get free shipping. I think I got a Dayco brand timing belt or something, which I haven't even used yet, but that's a different story.
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I ordered the conversion off of IRP, I didn't know about the $100 - free shipping thing. I also couldn't find a balancer belt off of IRP, so the timing belt, balancer belt and water pump I ordered from Majestic Honda.

The bearing seal retainer I discovered you need to go to the dealership for because its a TSB item. I did find one on IRP, but to be on the safe side and whatnot I'll just pick one up at the dealer. I think they're only a couple bucks.
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