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So today when I went to take my car out for a ride to keep it running (because it's really cold, with snow on the ground and random flurries throughout the day) I got about five miles down the road and realized that my power steering wasn't working. I'm pretty sure that it WAS working when I first left the parking lot (strictly because I feel like I would have noticed when I first got in the car) and I have no clue as to what the problem could be. Is it the coldness?

Also, just as a fun story I wanted to say that this isn't the first time this happened to me. When my sister went to college I got her car (a 1998 Acura TL) and it did the same thing. One day I got in and the power steering just wasn't working. And of course my dad (who is usually really good with cars, considering my uncle owns a transmission shop) just told me to work out more so it wouldn't be as hard. So lucky me had a wheel that was really hard to turn for two months or so. I just want to throw it out there that I suggested to my dad (for no reason at all, I had no idea as to how this would help but it just dawned upon me one day) that it could be the tires. Now my dad being Mr. Cool said that it's not possible for the tires affect the power steering. In the end, we had to get new tires for it to pass inspection, and I remember driving away after the shop had put them on, and the power steering worked!

But any suggestions as to what could be the problem to my power steering would help. I'm 250 miles away from my Dad and he is not going to be able to fix my car for me
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Re: Power steering problem

First thing, make sure the belt is still there. If it's not, it's a very cheap and easy thing to fix. Like maybe $12 for the belt, and 15min of your time if you've never done it before.
Check fluid levels, belt tension (if the belt is there), and make sure the power steering pulley is turning while the engine is running (also if the belt is there).
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Re: Power steering problem

Would I still be able to drive if the belt had come off? Like I wouldn't damage anything by accidentally driving around without it?
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I don't believe damage will occur, but not 100%. Lots of guys on here have actually removed their power steering entirely. It'll just be harder to turn the steering wheel if you're not rolling.
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no power steering makes your car a race car
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just get rid of it
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Do that many people really drive around with no power steering?
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Do that many people really drive around with no power steering?
Yes and no. Usually the guys who have more modified vehicles choose to go that route, as P/S is not really necessary. Most of the guys using their lude as a daily driver still have P/S.

In addition to what was already said (check belt and fluid) also check for turbulence in the power steering fluid resevoir. Run the car at idle and check to see if your power steering fluid is moving in the resevoir (being sloshed around and such), if not then this is an indication that the pump is no longer circulating fluid. Also check the system (pump, hoses, rack and pinion) for any fluid leaks. The system relies on pressure to assist in the steering of the car, and a leak would cause you to lose pressure, effectively hampering the whole system. If you do have a leak, then chances are you'll notice a change in fluid level (ie. it will be low) and there will most likely be spots of fluid on the ground.
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Plus, if you meet a hot chick, you can offer to teach her to drive your car. If you have no P/S & she can't turn the steering wheel, she'll be sad and you won't get laid. That is no bueno.
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Re: Power steering problem

My car is automatic though (got my car for free from my uncle so I can't complain). I really hope that WHEN (not if) I find a hot girl she knows how to drive your average car hehe

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Have you gone out to look around your PS yet?
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Re: Power steering problem

No I've had class all day so far (actually today is my sleep-in day because my first class isn't until 12:30) but I have a Spanish oral exam in like 30 minutes (Yay!) so I'm going to look at it after I ace that... I hope.
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Plus, if you meet a hot chick, you can offer to teach her to drive your car. If you have no P/S & she can't turn the steering wheel, she'll be sad and you won't get laid. That is no bueno.
That's a good point... but most hot chicks are dumb. You want a dumb broad driving your pride and joy?
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hell na man dont let a dumb broad drive your car im teachin my girl some time when i get back but i got a slow ass f22 im gonna drop a h22 in there so its ok if she messes my stuff up and im deleting my power steering completely i got rid of my ac lines since my ac compressor locked up and the only other thing i got to delete is the cruise control open my engine bay up and who needs power steering were all guys here if you cant control your car without it then you shouldnt be driving it anyways
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Dang those are some harsh words
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Re: Power steering problem

So I went out to my car and took some pictures of the power steering fluid and a video of what my car was sounding like. I looked inside the power steering fluid while the car was on and nothing looked like it was moving, but then again it was kinda hard to see but I think I would have noticed it being "sloshed" around had it of been.

Other than that please tell me what exactly I need to do.

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Ok well there were soposto be some pictures on that last one, let me try again.
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Re: Power steering problem

Broad view
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Re: Power steering problem

Video just so you can hear what it was sounding like, and see that there is a belt missing

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Yes and no. Usually the guys who have more modified vehicles choose to go that route, as P/S is not really necessary. Most of the guys using their lude as a daily driver still have P/S.

In addition to what was already said (check belt and fluid) also check for turbulence in the power steering fluid resevoir. Run the car at idle and check to see if your power steering fluid is moving in the resevoir (being sloshed around and such), if not then this is an indication that the pump is no longer circulating fluid. Also check the system (pump, hoses, rack and pinion) for any fluid leaks. The system relies on pressure to assist in the steering of the car, and a leak would cause you to lose pressure, effectively hampering the whole system. If you do have a leak, then chances are you'll notice a change in fluid level (ie. it will be low) and there will most likely be spots of fluid on the ground.
I can't see the vid's because of proxy settings here at work, but it looks like it's gonna come down to looking into what Havik said about the pump not properly circulating fluid, or possibly some blockage. Check the hoses to make sure they're not pinched shut or anything, and lets wait for another suggestion or two because I've never seen PS fluid surging out the top unless it was completely overfilled.
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Re: Power steering problem

I mean I know I wasn't overfilled, but what didn't hit me is that it could of just spread from the original spot when turning, but I still don't know how that got there to begin with. In the videos it's kinda hard to see but there is fluid coming down the side of the container and at the base of it.
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Dude, your belt broke

You can clearly see in the video there's no belt moving the power steering pulley.

As someone posted earlier, is very cheap and fairly easy to change yourself.
And yes, you can drive it without the belt.

The sound I'm not sure what it is, but it doesn't sounds right at all. Was it making that sound before the problem with the power steering??

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Re: Power steering problem

I watched all three videos and yeah man, there is no belt on there and the p/s pump is not working at all so that why there is no fluid movement when looking in the reservoir. The reason why fluid squirted out is because you have no leaks, so all the fluid is still in there and when you turn the wheel without the pump running, the rack forces the fluid through the lines and out the cap.

But dude, I think you have other issues other than the power steering. That motor sounds terrible. The first two videos sounded like a bad timing belt slap or something, but that last video after you drove it... That sounded like it was knocking!! Without the pump running (since you have no belt), the power steering wont make any noise at all
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Yeah I know it sounds bad, don't worry it didn't sound like that before this, but I have no clue as to what is making the noise... So what should I do?

And should the power steering pump still work after the belt broke?
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DELETE IT!!! For reals. No PS is SOOOOOOOOOO much better. U can feel the rd 1000 times better then with PS. I say if its broke and u don't need it...delete it haha. A/C's broke? DELETE IT! Cruise control don't work? DELETE IT! lol. But seriously. Delete that sh1t lol
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When you say delete it do you mean don't fix it? Or did you actually take the parts out of your car
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