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the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

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this is an opinion question on which you guys think is the best synthetic oil to use and why or why not..

Personally, I think amsoil is the best, I mean they are the originators of synthetic motor oil so they've had more time to perfect it and I've heard nothing but good about them..I've heard a lot of good about royal purple also but something about having purple oil just kind of turns me off.
I know a lot of people say mobil 1 and only mobil 1 but I really don't like the extra additives they use to "clean" your engine. Unless you use mobil 1 every time from your first oil change, on a brand new car, I wouldn't trust it. On older cars you get all kinds of deposits embeded into the metal of the engine, soot or sludge or whatever. But when you (mobil 1) clean all of those deposits out, it leaves cavities which can lead to loss of compression or more errosion, both of which would be really bad.
There's probably a few out there that I just haven't had the pleasure of using but..
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1. amsoil
2. castrol edge
3. royal purple
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

AMSoil is bar-none the best oil out there. 100% synthetic, instead of "synthetic".

Mobil1 is still a Group III oil, which isn't fully synthetic at all. Deceptive at the very least. Regardless, it is still a good quality oil. I currently run Mobil1 in my Prelude. I find it burns off quite easily once you get over 1000 miles on the oil. In fact, in 4000 miles (I was doing 5k intervals), I ran through 2.5 quarts. Mind you, my H22A1 has 180k miles on it, and I run it's ass off on the interstate.

Royal Purple makes power, but it is an Ester based oil, and therefore isn't suited for long service life. If you run your car hard and change the oil often, then it's okay. Otherwise, I'd go with something with more longevity.

I don't have any personal experience with Castrol Edge, but a friend of mine is a manager at one of those 5 minute oil change places. They top off your oil between changes for free, and he tells me that he has a larger portion of Castrol Edge customers needing top-offs than any of the other oils they sell. We both assume that it must have a low flash point and burn off quicker than other synthetics.

And about the whole, "switching to synthetic in an old engine" wive's tale, it's horsesh!t.

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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

Other. Ive heard spectacular things about ENEONS. Gains more power then Royal Purple and will last longer then most other oils
ENEOS.... (i'm about to do an oil change)
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

Sounds like a load of crap to me. Plus, there's only three distributors in the U.S. I don't think it can run in the same leagues as your commercially available oils because of this. If that were the case, why not throw all the oils from Europe, Japan, etc. that we can't get here into the mix as well? Be realistic.

About making "more power"... Making power doesn't mean it's good. Hell, a 100 shot of nitrous makes a lot more power than just regular air, doesn't it? How does this oil do in harsh daily driving situations like 90% of us drive in?

Sounds to me that this is more of an oil you run in a car that you spend time at the track with.
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

royal purple is over hyped i use mobil 1 ep and it works great.

if your looking for something more

id look at amsoil once i cam my motor im switching to amsoil ive also heard good things about motul

i also believe eneos tho good is way over hyped.

unless you have a serious motor build id just stick with mobil 1 or mobil 1 extended performance.

oh and about castrol edge. its the same as mobil 1 ep

edit: switching to any synthetic will clean your motor out better not just mobil 1
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Sounds like a load of crap to me. Plus, there's only three distributors in the U.S. I don't think it can run in the same leagues as your commercially available oils because of this. If that were the case, why not throw all the oils from Europe, Japan, etc. that we can't get here into the mix as well? Be realistic.

About making "more power"... Making power doesn't mean it's good. Hell, a 100 shot of nitrous makes a lot more power than just regular air, doesn't it? How does this oil do in harsh daily driving situations like 90% of us drive in?

Sounds to me that this is more of an oil you run in a car that you spend time at the track with.

He asked about the best. And you can actually get Eneos, its not a ghost oil for the U.S. market, only available in Europe, but it is a Japanese oil. People have tried it and they have good things to say. I like how you went from oil to air. Dont get so butt hurt

Same league? Dude if you know one thing about mass production know that the more you make the harder it is to control the quality. Thats why small specialty stores still exist. You don't go to Walmart for the best quality do you?

Be realistic, you know nothing about it and got all pissy for no reason
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He asked about the best. And you can actually get Eneos, its not a ghost oil for the U.S. market, only available in Europe, but it is a Japanese oil. People have tried it and they have good things to say. I like how you went from oil to air. Dont get so butt hurt

Same league? Dude if you know one thing about mass production know that the more you make the harder it is to control the quality. Thats why small specialty stores still exist. You don't go to Walmart for the best quality do you?

Be realistic, you know nothing about it and got all pissy for no reason
"Best" is really a subjective term. Brand A could be the best at wear protection, but most expensive. Brand B Makes the most power, is affordable, but wears faster. Brand C gives the most fuel economy gain, is expensive, but still protects well. Brand D Is cheap, and does all functions adequately, without being any better than others.

So which is "best" here? Depends on what you're doing.

People can say all the good they want, really they can. It may produce more HP, and it may not. I'm gonna lean toward the psychological gain they get from knowing they're using an oil that they're told is superior, costs more, and nobody knows about. I'm guilty of such behaviors as well.

I'm not butthurt; I'm immune to butthurt.

What does mass production have to do with anything? You think that Eneos is painstakingly produced by hand by scientists, one quart at a time? Give me a break. It's just as "mass produced" as GTX, but in a smaller quantity.

Small specialty stores still exist because people buy specialty parts and fluids for specialty purposes. I drive a 94 Prelude VTEC. It's a Honda. A 90's Honda. There's no need for specialty fluids (other than Honda PS fluid and coolant) to be in this vehicle.

I know nothing about it? Puh-lease. Eneos isn't even a Group IV or higher oil. It's no more synthetic than Mobil1, Castrol Syntec, or any of the other "synthetic" oils that aren't truly full synthetics.


Who is the pissy one again? Also, I don't know if you caught it earlier, but I'm immune to butthurt.
Read more.

TL;DR: "Best" means nothing. I don't get butthurt. Eneos is a Group III (read: Not Fully Synthetic) oil.
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AMSoil is bar-none the best oil out there. 100% synthetic, instead of "synthetic".

Mobil1 is still a Group III oil, which isn't fully synthetic at all. Deceptive at the very least. Regardless, it is still a good quality oil. I currently run Mobil1 in my Prelude. I find it burns off quite easily once you get over 1000 miles on the oil. In fact, in 4000 miles (I was doing 5k intervals), I ran through 2.5 quarts. Mind you, my H22A1 has 180k miles on it, and I run it's ass off on the interstate.

Royal Purple makes power, but it is an Ester based oil, and therefore isn't suited for long service life. If you run your car hard and change the oil often, then it's okay. Otherwise, I'd go with something with more longevity.

I don't have any personal experience with Castrol Edge, but a friend of mine is a manager at one of those 5 minute oil change places. They top off your oil between changes for free, and he tells me that he has a larger portion of Castrol Edge customers needing top-offs than any of the other oils they sell. We both assume that it must have a low flash point and burn off quicker than other synthetics.

And about the whole, "switching to synthetic in an old engine" wive's tale, it's horsesh!t.
I could say the exact same for my engine and the mobile 1 full synthetic. I love the stuff and it does great. I also do the same 5k intervals and just recently started using mobil 1 filters, but damn there expensive. Im currently at 174k on my h22a4. Ill also have to look into the s2k filters for my lude now. I called my local honda shop and asked about the prelude filters and of course wasnt informed about the change.
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I catch Mobil1 with a Mobil1 EP filter (M1-106, iirc) on sale at Autozone for $30... so I stock up lol.
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I personally use Redline. Tested and proved by import tuner in their best oil test. At $10 a qt it's no f'n joke. Eneos is used for my high mileage commuters. Royal purple when I can't afford redline lol
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I catch Mobil1 with a Mobil1 EP filter (M1-106, iirc) on sale at Autozone for $30... so I stock up lol.
LOL that would be wonderfull if there was an autozone near me. Just Advance, Napa and and Oriely's if i go over to Tennessee.
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

i put royal purple in my lude 5k miles ago and since then i've had to add 2 quarts and i'm currently low, again. i'm about to do an oil change here soon but i don't want to use royal purple again if i have to keep adding that much in between oil changes. that stuff's expensive as it is! can anybody recommend a good "fully synthetic" oil that's not so susceptive to burning off?
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

If that's you're problem you may want to use a thicker oil. Especially in the summer. May not be so goodin winter if you get really cold like here in MT. Using a thicker oil than recommended could lead toworse dry starts.

As far as the debate. I use mobil 1. When any of the above mentioned companies have their oil in the majority of the world's most elite vehicles right off the assembly line and they become a fortune 500 company I will possibly switch.
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I gave up on the hype of these crazy expensive oils a while ago. Especially since I change my oil between every 2500 and 3000 miles. I use Honda 5w-30, it is made by castrol to Honda specifications, and a Honda oil filter. If I do not use Honda oil I will use Mobil, usually Mobil Clean 5000.

When I change my oil the oil comes out almost as clean as it went in and I do not burn through it like most H22s do either.

I'm not saying it is the best I'm just telling you what works and doesn't rip a new ass hole in your wallet.
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If that's you're problem you may want to use a thicker oil. Especially in the summer. May not be so goodin winter if you get really cold like here in MT. Using a thicker oil than recommended could lead toworse dry starts.

As far as the debate. I use mobil 1. When any of the above mentioned companies have their oil in the majority of the world's most elite vehicles right off the assembly line and they become a fortune 500 company I will possibly switch.
Using a thicker oil is also detrimental because it doesn't flow as well, and flow is what keeps your motor alive. However, I don't think it's really a problem to use a slightly thicker oil as long as you use common sense and don't throw gear oil in your motor lol.

I also wanted to add that the reason why Mobil 1 comes in so many cars from the factory is that it meets manufacturer's specs while maintaining a low bid. When a company manufactures a vehicle, they choose what brand oil comes in it from the factory based on bids they receive from the oil manufacturers. Of course, whomever bids the lowest while meeting certain criteria gets the sale. A lot of the higher end oils don't want to be on store shelves and OEM in vehicles because they're not gonna sell themselves short by being told how much they can sell their oil for. I know for a fact that AMSoil takes this approach because I've had quite a few conversations with local sales reps.

So really, Mobil 1 isn't the end-all of oils cause it comes in Cadillacs and shi!t from the factory, it just comes in there cause they undercut the other companies that bid on GM's contract. That isn't to say that Mobil 1 isn't good oil. Like I said, I use it in MY Prelude. I just don't like misinformation.

And Clean5000 is a garbage oil made from poor Group I/Group II base stocks (it's a dino blood oil). It just rides on the Mobil brand name.
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And Clean5000 is a garbage oil made from poor Group I/Group II base stocks (it's a dino blood oil). It just rides on the Mobil brand name.

Where exactly do you get all your oil knowledge oh god of the lube???
I do not care if it is a base stock oil. It is high quality and meets the standards of the only two automotive companies I have real respect for. (Ford & Honda)

I have several Honda Certifications and am working my way up the ranks and I know what I am talking about. I would not put any "garbage" in my precious H22A and also wouldn't suggest someone else to use it either.
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Where exactly do you get all your oil knowledge oh god of the lube???
I have several Honda Certifications and am working my way up the ranks and I know what I am talking about. I would not put any "garbage" in my precious H22A and also wouldn't suggest someone else to use it either.
I get all my oil knowledge by doing research. I've read quite extensively into the subject. Most of the information has come from independant articles/tests on the internet. Other information has come from first hand experience.
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All oils are made from base stocks (not being a smartass. Just FYI).

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I have several Honda Certifications and am working my way up the ranks and I know what I am talking about. I would not put any "garbage" in my precious H22A and also wouldn't suggest someone else to use it either
I don't mean to be a d!ck, but if "Honda Certifications" are anything like ASE certifications - certifications that say you can read a book and take a test - then they arelly don't mean anything to me.
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I get all my oil knowledge by doing research. I've read quite extensively into the subject. Most of the information has come from independant articles/tests on the internet. Other information has come from first hand experience.

All oils are made from base stocks (not being a smartass. Just FYI).



I don't mean to be a d!ck, but if "Honda Certifications" are anything like ASE certifications - certifications that say you can read a book and take a test - then they arelly don't mean anything to me.
I'm glad to see that you have spent the time doing the research but if they meet certain guidlines and don't give me any issues then they are good by me. The oils I use are based off of personal experience also.

I meant to say the groups but sorry I have a little bit to much on my plate today.

They are pretty much like taking ase certifications, and I hate that, but they wouldn't be paying me to take them if I didn't already prove to them that I know what I am doing.

I agree with mostly everything you have said and I am impressed by your knowledge. I just do not agree that Mobil Clean 5000 is garbage.

Sorry if I came off as an ass. Having a little bit of a family issue today and I kind of took it out on you for a second. I sowwwwy
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Also, I would like to see the link about the MC5000 that claims it is no good. Just would like to read it.
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I'll have to dig it up. I remember being pretty surprised at the results. I know the Clean7500 and Clean15000 had good tests however.
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

ok so since 5w-30 is what's recommended, should i get 10w-30 or 5w-40? sorry, i'm not all that oil savvy.
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

If 5w-30 is what is recommended by Honda, then get 5w-30. 10w-30 was what was originally recommended in the 4th gen Preludes. 5th gens should have been 5w-30.
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yea but like i mentioned earlier, my 5th gen burns through 5w-30 like crazy. so would it be a good idea to go with something just a little bit thicker?
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

How much oil, and how much thicker? I don't personally recommend ever switching to a thicker oil, just because I'm not a mechanical engineer and I don't know the inner workings of the H22 and its oil supply like the back of my hand. However, I wouldn't see a problem using something like 10w-40 in Florida.
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yea but like i mentioned earlier, my 5th gen burns through 5w-30 like crazy. so would it be a good idea to go with something just a little bit thicker?
Go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and spend some time reading. Then make up your own mind.
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Go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and spend some time reading. Then make up your own mind.
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oh and about castrol edge. its the same as mobil 1 ep

edit: switching to any synthetic will clean your motor out better not just mobil 1
I was just at autozone the other day and was looking at oil and I've heard that castrol edge and mobil 1 are the same before..but castrol is made by BP, not mobil. So for my dd's, I usually used castrol but after finding that out, F BP even if the oil is decent, I'll spend the extra money and go for amsoil. British Petroleum kills american wildlife, not cool.

As far as the second part about the cleanding, you're probably right my bad..I think I just have something against the big oil companies that only care about themselves and our money, at any cost.

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On the 4g 10w-30 is recommended on the H22 but the H23 and F22 recommend 5w-30, I'm also not sure about the 5g's though.

I heard a pro-BP commerical on the radio the other day and it made me sick. It was some gas station owner that was saying how he lives in our area and employees people from this area and that he wanted to thank the loyal customers.. Then he went on to say that BP is trying to do a good job and we should give them a brake or some crap. I'm thinking, if you really cared about the people around you, you would have done something similar to quite a few of the other BP owners and switched companies to not be a part of the ugly distaste that BP has brought about around us. Not only that but he must not be hurting too bad for money, seeing how he paid for expensive radio commerical time. Made me want to vomit..I think it got to me a little too much cause I tried calling the radio station to let them hear it for playing a pro-BP commerical. They must have known though cause they didn't answer for like an hour and a half, so I never got through. lol, bad day maybe.

btw thanks for the feedback on the subject and though it was funny, I'm glad to see everyone mending their butt sores lol. Oh and s2k oil filters fit preludes? are they bigger? I was trying to find maybe a bigger oil filter and if it fits the lude that means it'll fit my itr also and that would be sweet. please let me know if anyone knows..
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Re: the best: AMSoil, Royal Purple or other?

ok so i just changed my oil yesterday and i decided to try castrol edge over the usual mobil1, ive noticed my car idles a bit quieter and now is smoking more than usual out the exhaust, i mean the car runs great and i have no power loss, its starts smoking when i take off from a stop, i wonder if there's additives in the oil that's cleaning the internals? has anyone have any idea what this could be?
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