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Old 06-23-2010, 04:32 PM
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This is what my lude does this when it starts up and after u get it start it runs just fine

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Calm down man, we'll help you, but you gotta slow down and explain the issue in a cohesive and organized manner. Try to use proper spelling and grammar as well. I'm not just busting your balls about it, but I'm really finding it hard to understand what you're saying because most of it is coming across as gibberish. And if we can't understand you we can't help you.
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What do you wanna know? Sir!
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Watching that video literally made me cringe a bit.

Havik! What's the word? Fuel Pump? Fuel Filter? Crappy plugs and wires? Distributor?
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damm to be honest that **** was crazy and took forever to start....read the final start up thread though should help you out..
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look moar bethur smathur?

(prolly should give that thread a look see)



Anyway, I don't know, can't view the video >.>

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Re: Starting issue

I ran into this problem with a Nissan Sentra once, it ended up being a clogged cat, it wasn't letting any exhaust exit. I disconnected the cat and it started right up with no problems. Im really not sure, but you may want to try just to see. Other than that make sure you are getting good spark and fuel pressure.
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Re: Starting issue

i can just imagine how cool you must feel at the local friday night meet. sorry im no help.
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Re: Starting issue

to me it sounds like your not getting any fuel. i would open the line going to the fuel rail and see if u have good pressure. no start problems u gotta think do u have fuel spark and compression. Also it sounds like there isnt a lot of compression. maybe the rings are starting to see the end. I cant be positive but i hope this helps a little.
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Re: Starting issue

thats just messed up it sounds like its fireing but not. reminds me of a car that has jumped timming but it seems to run ok when it starts does it have good power when it is going down the road? maybe weak presure or coil going bad? could be that it jumped time but it would have to run weak while driving it sometimes they idle and rev fine but have no power when its time to go. im some what voting on fuel issue
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i replaced the coil, fuel pump, plugs and wires, icm, ecu, battery, cap and rotor, cleaned out the egr... im kinda lost myself, if I let it run for awhile... like yesterday after the video was taken i let it run for 2+ hours in the driveway and it was running great after I got it started it starts just fine for like 24 hours give or take... I'm thinkin its the main relay, fuel pressure reg, or a a block in the cat? IDK I just wanna get it fixed!!!! But to anwser a question it runs like a bat outta hell when driving it., it might be the best its ever run minus the start up. So that's all the info I can think of to give u guys.

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I ran into this problem with a Nissan Sentra once, it ended up being a clogged cat, it wasn't letting any exhaust exit. I disconnected the cat and it started right up with no problems. Im really not sure, but you may want to try just to see. Other than that make sure you are getting good spark and fuel pressure.
This would be my guess too.
You don't need to cut everything off, just unbolt the exhaust for a few minutes and give it a shot.
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man, to me it sounds like fuel.
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Re: Starting issue

If its the fuel pressure reg it would seem to be running really rich, belching out black smoke. Thats what usually happens when they go bad. Of course it could also go the other way, but thats much much more rare.

It could be a clogged cat, but I would think that would make it run like crap all the time, and a CEL would prolly get thrown if it was that clogged. Probably anyway.

Maybe, and this is just spitballin here, but maybe when its cold it doesnt have the compression it needs, but once its warmed up and the oil seals the pistons then it does. Could be from a chip in the cylinder wall or something...


But anyway, might as well ask some basic questions. What type of gas and motor oil do you use? Is the oil level where its supposed to be?
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Re: Starting issue

ya know, i thought of this too, how is the battery? it might not have enough ummfff to get the fire going, and maybe the alternator is weak? i know that sounds out of left field i know, but it sounds like fuel or weak spark. i hate that feeling of not knowing what it is when uve combed through all options. sometimes it the out of the box thinking thats the solution. i'm gonna keep an eye on this thread. hope u get it bro!
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ya know, i thought of this too, how is the battery? it might not have enough ummfff to get the fire going, and maybe the alternator is weak? i know that sounds out of left field i know, but it sounds like fuel or weak spark. i hate that feeling of not knowing what it is when uve combed through all options. sometimes it the out of the box thinking thats the solution. i'm gonna keep an eye on this thread. hope u get it bro!
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i replaced the coil, fuel pump, plugs and wires, icm, ecu, battery, cap and rotor, cleaned out the egr... im kinda lost myself, if I let it run for awhile... like yesterday after the video was taken i let it run for 2+ hours in the driveway and it was running great after I got it started it starts just fine for like 24 hours give or take... I'm thinkin its the main relay, fuel pressure reg, or a a block in the cat? IDK I just wanna get it fixed!!!! But to anwser a question it runs like a bat outta hell when driving it., it might be the best its ever run minus the start up. So that's all the info I can think of to give u guys.

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean the battery he replaced it with is good.
I don't think he mentioned the alternator but I don't think its that.
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the battery still managed to start the car after a minute and a half of cranking out power, if it was bad it would have lost most of the power and never started it.


also u said u replaced the cap and rotor, what about the module from behind the cap? take the module from inside the distributer and have it tested, it could be on its way out. EDIT: thats where i had trouble at too and my car was doing the same thing, and check all the wires and nice and tight inside the distributer
Since it runs perfectly after it starts it should be somewhere in there where ur trouble is. but if that dosent work try checking the injectors and maybe compression?

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Yeah I got that changed out, I called it in the list of parts the ICM, its good, the battery is brand spanking new, and I didn't change the alternator cause I haven’t been any issues with the battery staying charged of the light dimming when I hit the glass... I think it’s the fuel pressure regulator, and or the fuel filter myself, it’s been starting up just fine yesterday and today...(fingers crossed) I had low gas in my tank last night like right above the e mark, no light yet. and when I came to a stop about 45% of the time it just died and then it started back right back up, so I when and topped it off and wanted to see if it would keep doing it so I started slamming the brakes and coming to a fast stop.. nothing it didn’t do it again so that is why I think that's the issue going to buy a new one tonight and hope that fixes it the issue
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Re: Starting issue

if its dieing when going back to idle it might be a pressure problem. I worked on an 1st gen eclipse that did that... but thats also an eclipse hahaha
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Re: Starting issue

Now after thinking about it...I'm leaning more towards a bad main relay. My Accord used to do this and it took me forever to figure it out. It would run fine for like a week, then I would stop and get gas and after it would do the same thing at the gas station, just crank and crank. I would just wait and sit there for like 2 or 3 min, then it would start right up and not give me any problems till like a month down the road when it would do the same thing. I Replaced main relay under the dash ($50.00 from Honda dealer) and it never happened again.
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Well ive replaced now, the fuel lines, main relay, all the grounds, the distributor, both ect, cleaned out the intake, new cat. I give up still wont start in the cold but sires up in the warmer weather =(
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im too tired to think right now, but i think you have an electrical problem check fuel presure to eliminate fuel problems you can rent a gauge from autozone if you dont have one then you can move on to electrical and other things.
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