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Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

hi again...

i was told that "215" tyre width looks better than a "225" tyre width
on a 9" wheel width... (stretched look)

but then, i was like "what about the wheel, it's not protected from curbs anymore"....

so yeah, what you think guys, pros and cons...

EDIT: sorry if this question was asked before..

thanks!

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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

You spelt "tire" wrong in your post, and "practice" wrong in your sig. Plus I want to strangle your avatar.

That said, Go into the stance section of the forum, there's a thread in there about tire and rim sizes, as well as offsets.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

that's a bit harsh aye mate!

tyre=tire
center=centre
aeroplane=airplane get it?

u get me on that prac-tice...

any insights at all???
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

ya man, give him a break. other parts of the world spell things differant. plus at least you understood what he meant. half this damn country cant speak/write english as well, that being said...
Tire Stretching.........
Stretched tires...
Wheel Tucking & More.

p.s. maybe if you spelled "tire" right when you searched it would come up. just busting you balls man haha
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

well if you insist on using....whatever form of english you're using, I suppose I can let it slide, as I've seen it enough on here not to consider it a typo. Suppose its a non-american english thing.

Anyway, too great a negative or positive offset will cause handling problems, just remember. Slight changes can improve handling. Depends on which you get. Negative improves handling, positive (on the drive wheels) can improve the amount of power that gets to the ground because you can use shorter axles. But on a front wheel drive car, it's not really a problem. I would go with a slightly negative offset if you're going to do so, as it improves handling, but too much negative offset will wear the living piss out of your wheel bearings.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

upsluder,,,thanks for the site.
browsed the rimtuck.com...

and my conclusion,(correct me if im wrong, 215/40 are not that bad on 9" wide)
right? i mean, performance wise...

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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

Well, I don't know what your after but I have 215/40s on 7" wheels. It makes the profile that I desire. Squared up with the wheel and offers some lip protection. I just dont get the tire stretch thing. It looks like a husky person wearing a bikini 2 sizes to small.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

Maybe you guys lost me, I'm not getting the meaning of a stretched tire.

Mine are 215/40(or 45)/17. Not sure how wide, they're kinda narrow but I like em. I'm actually considering slightly wider tires when I get new ones, I'm thinking my narrow tires might be hurting my cornering and stability a tad.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

Yeah, you're lost. You were more concerned about the spelling of someone who lives in a different country with different rules to the English language than the actual topic. That's how to make an ass out of yourself. To clarify what is being debated here, tire stretching is putting a narrower tire than what will SAFELY, or what is designed go on the wheel. For the example at hand, a 215 tire converted to inches is roughly 8.5. To put that on a 9" wheel you will actually be "stretching" the sidewalls out for the bead to seat in the wheel. The intention behind this is for in very precise offset, lowered cars you can achieve a look of a rim flush with the fender. Other than looks I see no performance benefits. As for your case of wanting wider tires, it will not necessarily improve handling. Forward propultion maybe. The stiffness and height of side wall and compound of the tread have more to do with handling than width.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

I agree with you on the sidewall, tread and composition of the tire point. I don't really agree with you on wider tires not affecting handling. Wider tires equal a larger contact patch and slightly more stability. I would say they would make the car less ah, apt to turn and may make for less precision turning capability, but they would give you more stability and control.

And I posted one sentence about his spelling, and just so happened to be the first sentence. But it wasn't my only sentence. And in my second post, by that time I realized he was in a different country and accepted it as part of his particular dialect, and less of a spelling error. So I wouldn't consider that making an ass out of myself.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

Stretched Tires:

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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

^^^ totally unsafe, note the grove in the side wall. That car could have a blow out at any time going down the highway, not to mention it also has NO suspension travel.

245 or 255 is about right for a 9 inch wheel, I have no idea why you would want to be that wide, unless you are using them as drag radials or some DOT R-Comps.

Hella Flush may sound cool but it is for a show car that is put on a trailer and not driven on the streets, you will be bending rims every pot hole, and not to mention the possibility of unseating the bead. You will lose overall grip of the tire, your stopping distance will be longer due to increased wheel weight and lack of contact space. You will have slower acceleration for the same reason of weight.

There are no Pros of tire stretching.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

That looks like crap. I can't even add a "no offense" before that statement, my conscience won't allow it. It just plain looks like hell.
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I think tires are like assholes....


....They shouldn't be stretched.
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I think tires are like assholes....


....They shouldn't be stretched.
lolol.

But in all seriousness, I see no reason to do that, if you want to do it because you like the look, its always your choice, but its simply not what the tire was made to do and if you ever use something the way its not supposed to be used, there is a chance you will hurt it.

In this case, it looks very dangerous to drive on.
If thats the look you like, I would use it during shows and meets only, swap out the tires with the stretched ones to drive around the meet, or park in a show, but In my personal opinion, I would not drive on that.

The same way I wouldn't drive on these.


It simply seems dangerous in a common sense sorta way.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

yes yes!! got 'that' message bulls eye!

thank you sir!

and, oh, hang on, Chill people!!!

*that streched tires photo looks dangerous, i wouldn't do that on my wheels either..

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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

In my opinion I think stretched tires look pretty cool, but to an extent. I would never do it on a car that is daily driven. It looks tight on some cars though.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

I see this scion xb around town with stretched tires.. The tire is basically tucked all the way in the fender.. And it looks like the fenders cut into the tires from hitting bumps and now the lip of the wheels are totally exposed.. Don't really care for it
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

This practice is old as hell and there are racecars that use it. It is purposely safe as long as the tire was mounted properly. I can think of at least 3 people that rock the hellaflush look around here on a daily basis, with stretched tires.
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That is how stretched tires are mounted.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

ughh stretched tires. lmfao no offence but the last time i checked, they only belong on VDUBBZZZZZZZ.. reguardless of that, why make your car unsafe, handle bad, and look stupid for everyone else who sees it besides a VDUBBBZZZZZZ driver being like "IS DAT A VDUBZZZZZ CUZ IT HAS STRETCHED TIREZZZZZ SO IT VDUBBBZZZZZZZ"

lolz. sorry, dont take it personally if you have a vdub, i just hate stretched tires, vdubs, and some vdub people, personally.
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That looks like crap. I can't even add a "no offense" before that statement, my conscience won't allow it. It just plain looks like hell.
I agree, that looks soooo gay! I dont know why anyone would even think about doing this. It looks like total ass and it is VERY unsafe!! DONT DO IT!
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

Despite the one post saying if they are done properly that they are safe....I just can't see the tire in that picture and the word "safe" belonging in the same sentence...
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Nor do I, its not the way the tires are made to be mounted.....
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

When done properly it can be relatively safe. Local professional drifters use stretched tyre (<-- the correct spelling!) setups as it allows less sidewall flex and as such more predicable handling. This is a moot point I believe because drifters generally use rubbish tyres anyway due to the regularity of them wearing out. And besides, most of you know my stance on drift and how it isn't a real motorsport, just dick heads showing off...but I digress.

The fact that it looks shiit is a personal preference...and one that I share. The one in the picture above as Dwend quite correctly pointed out is way unsafe for a road. A racetrack is different, you normally don't need to worry about surface imperfections, potholes and other things that would cause a sudden shock to the wheel/tyre package. If I drove with tyres like that on my daily commute to the office, I'd prolly hafta change tyres 2 or 3 times on my drive in. Then I'd have to do it again when I drove home.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Stretch tires?

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well if you insist on using....whatever form of english you're using, I suppose I can let it slide, as I've seen it enough on here not to consider it a typo. Suppose its a non-american english thing.

Anyway, too great a negative or positive offset will cause handling problems, just remember. Slight changes can improve handling. Depends on which you get. Negative improves handling, positive (on the drive wheels) can improve the amount of power that gets to the ground because you can use shorter axles. But on a front wheel drive car, it's not really a problem. I would go with a slightly negative offset if you're going to do so, as it improves handling, but too much negative offset will wear the living piss out of your wheel bearings.
well, you spelled "spelt" wrong.
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