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Old 06-13-2010, 03:05 PM
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Easy question about paint prep

I have a DC ceramic header I recently purchased used off PZ and it was a little rusty. I managed to get most of the rust off with a little sandpaper and a steel wire brush. Now I need to clean the metal before I paint it, so I was wondering what I could use. My dad told me gasoline, but I don't feel like going and getting any. I was wondering if I could use Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol or brake cleaner?
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

You can use degreaser or WD40. WD40 cleans grease and removes rust and such, so you could give that a whirl n see if it works. it'll clean it enough to wear primer/paint will stick.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

I really hope that you are not going to use spray paint or body paint. Hell I don't even think that hi temp paint will last on a header. Your best bet is to get it powder or ceramic coated. Anything else will more than likely get cooked off and end up looking like crap.

And powder coating a header really does not cost much, well not here anyways.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

...Damnit. I got Rust-Oleum spray paint... It's the High Heat series though and it's "rated" at 2000 degrees? It even has a photo of a painted header on the front. So no go on that?
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Well in reality, any paint that is not powdercoat will just get cooked off due to the high temperature, but it might stick for a little while.. powdercoat it.. it'll probably only cost ~ $50
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Yeah dude...Powdercoating is the only way to go on headers. I know some of the Bisimoto headers come with a heat treatment coating (not sure if it's powdercoating or what...), so you could possibly look into that.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Well the whole reason I bought this was to save money... I can't afford Bisimoto. I guess I'll get the damn thing powdercoated, but it doesnt really seem worth it to me. I only paid $50 for the header itself
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

DC headers suck for our motors, so just save the money and buy a better one down the road. Or just get it powdercoated if all you're worried about is looks.
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I'm only concerned with looks right now. I don't have a heat shield so I have to stare at this hideous, rusted out, cast iron manifold.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Then get it powdercoated.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

GAH!!! Damnit. How much is a good price? I need a baseline. I'll just go to the shop and say, "I need this powdercoated red for $__, if you can't do that, I will find a company that can." I know it's a dickish approach, but I always pay what I want, lol. Assertiveness FTW!
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Offer em' $50.
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Will do. Thanks all.
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...oooor spray the high temp paint since you already have it, drive around for a week or two, then see how the paint sticks. if it looks nasty then powdercoat it...
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...oooor spray the high temp paint since you already have it, drive around for a week or two, then see how the paint sticks. if it looks nasty then powdercoat it...
agreed. this is a good approach
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

I'll go ahead and try the paint. Would Purple Power be a good agent to clean it with? I already got more of the rust off.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

sand paper and wd-40 sounds about right.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

No man, don't use cheesy home products. Sand the crap out of it, since I doubt you have a sandblaster, then use ACETONE to wipe it down with, since you don't have Oakite or pickling gel.

Acetone will clean it right the fuk up, and it evaporates in seconds. We use it at my dad's welding/fabrication shop all the time, great for quickly wiping dirt, dust or grinding grit off metal.

And don't use rustoleum. It's not gonna stick. We haz to paint the exhausts on our lawnmowers with that stuff once a year, cuz it always flakes offand rusts. Use Pour (POR/PUR) 15, its a thick, hi-temp paint. It will prolly last the longest of any kind of paint.
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I will use what is at my disposal. If Rust-Oleum and Purple Power doesn't work, I'll just get it powder coated.
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I would say as long as you're going the paint route, pour 51 or whatever its called would be your best bet. It's like $5 at a hardware store.
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Brake cleaner is great for de-greasing before paint. DONT use WD40! It leaves an oily film and the paint won't stick to it at all. Its great for keeping thing lubed and electrics and all the stuff it says it doesn on the tin, but not paint prep!
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Re: Easy question about paint prep

Brake cleaner, paint thinner, acetone. Basically anything that evaporates quickly and doesn't leave a trace.

Acetone or brake clean = best bets. Of course I have already said this, so you can choose to listen or not.
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