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I am royally screwed

Well as the title says I'm screwed. I have three weeks before I go back out to school, tomorrow I was going to order my new engine, this week I was going to pick up or order everything I needed, then the last two weeks in june we were gonna do the engine swap. And by we, I mean my friend, who assured me for the last three months we'd be able to get this done, and that he would help me. He's the only one I know who knows how to do this swap, and has the tools and space to do it.

A couple hours ago, for reasons I don't fully understand but was assured they were important, he told me he couldn't help me. So after taking out a 1500 loan to do online courses so I could be in jersey where I could actually do this, months of working a crappy job (which tonight I was just accused of stealing from them) to save up the money for it, asking his dad if I could use their garage, and weeks upon weeks of finding the right place to buy a good engine, he tells me the day before I go to buy the engine that he can't help me.

Of course I offered him a $100 to help me, I'm not a dick, and I offered to help him with whatever he needed to do so we could get my swap done, but its a no go. Whatever it is, I guess he's booked solid for three weeks.

Anyway that really isn't the point of the thread, just the backstory. As many of you know my engine is being a dick and I was going to replace it, but now it seems like thats not going to happen. Now I can't do the swap, so my best bet I suppose would be to try and fix it. Problem is, I don't know whats wrong with it.


So if any of you can riddle me these questions three, I would appreciate it.

My car is an 01 type SH. It has a supposedly worked h22a4, prolly bull****.
It doesn't even have the power a stock lude has, and its leaking motor oil and running really lean.

1. My ecu is chipped, which needs to be replaced. Where would I get one? eBay? How do I know its stock and works in my car? I know it needs a p13 but its an SH, and I've heard a base ecu won't work with the sh because if the atts system can't communicate with the ecu it will cut fuel to the motor.

2. My rear main was already replaced, but because of overfilling and a bad pcv valve, its leaking again. At least thats my guess. As far as I know the crankshaft could be unbalanced, but wouldn't I hear a noise or something if it was?

3. The car is running lean, at least the spark plug coloring and texture seemed to indicate that. As far as I know it could have been running lean for years. How much damage could this have done to the engine? The compression numbers I've been told are fine, and the car doesn't make any weird noises except the belts are loud during warm up. The engine runs hot as hell, (doesn't ever overheat though) and I smell like melted or hot or burning **** everytime I turn the car off. It just smells like really hot rubber or something.

So what should my first move be? Should I take it to honda and have them try and diagnose it or should I just slap on a new ecu and fuel pressure reg and see if it gains more power, then see if my mechanic will still warranty the oil leak?


For bonus points, what fuel pressure reg should I get and where?



Thanks in advance for any help given. I'm kinda at a loss for what to do, 3 months of planning down the ****ing tubes.
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Re: I am royally screwed

Honestly dude, you need to find the appropriate P13 somehwere (I'd start on E-Bay) and go from there. Once you get that taken care of, take your car to a reputable shop and have the rear main replaced.

As for the FPR, you probably won't need a new one, they don't fail very often. The reason you're running lean probably has something to do with that whack ECU you've got.

This is what I would do to start off. Just my opinion.
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Well I was hoping you';d post, your opinion is usally pretty good.

However, what could running lean so long have done to my engine? kinda curious about it so because it doesnt seem good.
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well ... bro i have a 98 h22a4 in my 93.. and im swapping at my p13.. so i mean i can get you up with that.. if needed besides that, it does sound like what dbd said abt the ecu. but man, im sorry about your friend bailing somewhat on you.
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hey if you have a known good stock obd2 p13 for a type SH then id be happy to buy it.

as an interesting sidenote, i called honda to ask how much a new ecu would cost me. $750.00. Honda can go **** themselves on that one.
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hey if you have a known good stock obd2 p13 for a type SH then id be happy to buy it.

as an interesting sidenote, i called honda to ask how much a new ecu would cost me. $750.00. Honda can go **** themselves on that one.
ROFL! I called honda about another motor....they have one in cali for $6400. I just hung up lol. Wish I could help you with the swap but I haz no experience lol.
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Havik....You're not roaylly screwed bc you're in luck!!! You should talk to Bustr from NY to do your swap and he also has the tools and space to do it!!!

In fact Bustr has done either done a motor swap, tranny swap or a motor/tranny swap within the pass few months starting from January!!! He's done swaps for most of NYPOC!!!

He's really good with his work!!! Click my link under my sig to see what he did to my car a few months back!!!
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Havik....You're not roaylly screwed bc you're in luck!!! You should talk to Bustr from NY to do your swap and he also has the tools and space to do it!!!

In fact Bustr has done either done a motor swap, tranny swap or a motor/tranny swap within the pass few months starting from January!!! He's done swaps for most of NYPOC!!!

He's really good with his work!!! Click my link under my sig to see what he did to my car a few months back!!!
X2 man.

Try and contact bustr. He knows what hes doing and he could help u out alot more than most of us can. Your really lucky u live in ny. Sucks that I dont have somebody like bustr down here.
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I don't live in NY. I live in NJ. And I have a three week timeline. I was supposed to order the engine today, pick up all the pieces and parts this week, then have the last two weeks in june to do it. Kind of a ridiculous request unless you lived right down the road. Besides, I barely have enough money for the engine, I can't afford to have someone else do it.
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I know you live in NJ but your best bet right now is to talk to Bustr and fit in time to work on your motor swap n see if you can have motor n parts with car by him within that 2 week you say n have it done?!?!

Start out by talking to him bro!!!
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yeah bustr should be able to help you. i would stick with your decision to swap
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just for grins, how bad can the stock a4 be? another option is to work the old block yourself, re ring kit if you want to go that far. if its leaking oil, sluggish, get under it and do a few quick oil changes with syn, new drain plug washers, make sure everything is nice and tight. plugs wires cap rotor, induction cleaning maybe too? My 97 has 200+k on the original motor, cranks after some good loving.

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It just recently had an oil change, and one about three months before that. It was driven in those three months. I always use mobil 1 5w-30 full synthetic. And I'm pretty sure what's leaking is the rear main.

By the way, the compression numbers were good. Cold was 225, 210, 215, 225 and the hot numbers were 240, 225, 230, 240. The main reason I wanted to swap it is someone else messed with it, and its been running lean a long time. So I have no idea what damage could have been done to it. However the compression numbers are good, so I think the engine itself is ok, I just think the air/fuel mixture is off.

Also, my belts sound loud at startup. I think they're a bit overtightened, but I'm not sure. Anyone know if this is normal? They don't squeal or anything, you can just hear em going round and round, but its kinda loud. Haven't ever got an answer to this....
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cool, just thought i should play devils advocate for a hot minute. I should have read your post more thoroughly, but I just hate giving up on honda blocks, they can last forever if you treat em right.

as far as the damage or possible damage, I would think that **** ecu you have in there is the main problem, even if you replace it with a stock ecu, that could have damaged your lude over time [vtec engagement, etc]

the belts? mine are pretty silent, are you talking about hearing them from cabin or with the hood popped? you could always be bad and cut the belts you dont use [hee hee hee]

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Well thats one big reason I wanted to do the swap. People keep saying if it compression tested good than your fine, but who knows what kinda damage has been accumulating over time?

Anyway, I think what I'll do is get a new stock ecu and put the rest of my cash in savings so I can't touch it for the next year. That way when I get out of college and can do the swap myself I'll just do it. Then I can prolly also start building it

And the belts are pretty much loud during warm up even if the hood is closed, although you can still hear them slightly inside the cabin. I think it sounds like my p/s pump pulley, but then again, could be alternator. I know overtightened belts can cause excessive pulley bearing wear so that might be it.
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good decision, saving money is always good. as far as differentiating which belt it is, good luck, best bet would be to replace all belts, all hoses if you're there already, etc. best wishes, hope you can get something worked out.

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I'll just go out and check the tightness. The proper way to do it is to measure belt deflection, but the easier and almost as accurate way is just to twist em. V-belts are good if you can get one full turn out of them, and serpentines, a half turn. I think anyway.
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sounds correct, but so many things do... I dunno bud I would go ahead and just change them for mileage sakes, you can adjust them properly when you put the new belts on. but its your call. I hate screwing with the timing belt in particular, too many ugly possibilities there for me. anyway good luck

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just for grins, how bad can the stock a4 be? another option is to work the old block yourself, re ring kit if you want to go that far. if its leaking oil, sluggish, get under it and do a few quick oil changes with syn, new drain plug washers, make sure everything is nice and tight. plugs wires cap rotor, induction cleaning maybe too? My 97 has 200+k on the original motor, cranks after some good loving.

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cool, just thought i should play devils advocate for a hot minute. I should have read your post more thoroughly, but I just hate giving up on honda blocks, they can last forever if you treat em right.

as far as the damage or possible damage, I would think that **** ecu you have in there is the main problem, even if you replace it with a stock ecu, that could have damaged your lude over time [vtec engagement, etc]

the belts? mine are pretty silent, are you talking about hearing them from cabin or with the hood popped? you could always be bad and cut the belts you dont use [hee hee hee]

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I'm with ya. How bad can an H22-A4 base be? Besides leaking like a bitch when old, I wouldn't know, it's all I've ever had. I now have 245k on mine ('98) with front and rear main seal problems. And some others. I've been debating fixing it, new (jdm or low mi local, used) H22-A4, or sell it. Labor aside, which would be me, I'm leaning towards fixing it.
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Me? Nah, not now. Kinda too late. However I'll prolly be replacing the engine/trans when I get out of school, so I'll hit you up then lol
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