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Icon5 H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

I searched pz, along with google. I've been reading about diff motors for the past few days, my swap should be completed by sunday. =] Anyhow..my curiousity is killin me!

JDM h22a's are rated 200hp, just as much as the 99-01 h22a4s, but dyno at LEAST 10whp more, due to more compression. So why are they rated the same? if there's an obvious power difference..

The h22a4's dyno about 160whp, with a drivetrain loss of lets say 15%, that total comes out to 190hp.. 15% loss on the JDM, comes out to 170+whp, meaning they are truly 200hp.. Jdm h22a's are faster than their usdm counterparts, so were they underrated in japan? or the USDM h22a4's overrated in horsepower?..

the rsx-s motor 02-04 ( k20a2) are 200hp, and they dyno 170+whp ( which also sounds about right), the h22a4 just doesn't add up, this leads me to think that the 5th gen preludes motors were over rated.. freakin scammers?!

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sorta off topic but

my h22a4 with all my bolt ons, lost to the same year prelude that ONLY had S2S2 cams... repeatedly from 2nd gear, 3rd and 4th gear pulls.

basic bolt ons, what a waste of money! With that money spent, i could of gotten myself a nice set of cams like his and new valve retainers/springs. and been alot faster..
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my h22a4 with all my bolt ons, lost to the same year prelude that ONLY had S2S2 cams... repeatedly from 2nd gear, 3rd and 4th gear pulls.
Go to the S2 website and look at the graphs for those cams. You'll see why. lol

All the bolt-on's don't really do **** compared to cams (obviously), but you gotta do all you can because power is at a premium with our motors. And if you skimp out on cheap parts, you'll probably just make your car slower. *cough* DC Header *cough*
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Go to the S2 website and look at the graphs for those cams. You'll see why. lol

All the bolt-on's don't really do **** compared to cams (obviously), but you gotta do all you can because power is at a premium with our motors. And if you skimp out on cheap parts, you'll probably just make your car slower. *cough* DC Header *cough*
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idk i love my h22a4. I ran against my friend who has the jdm h22 supposedly with brian crower cams, and we both pulled at a dig and roll.. and it was just like a regular h22.. i mean i called b/s automatically lol.. but I did read on someones thread recently about their dyno run not being what they thought it would be. but back to the subject:
but, well.. depends what kind of bolt ons..
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

I'm assuming intake/header/exhaust/lightweight flywheel?
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

depends on the engine too. with the h22's each engine varies in power. its not like a GM engine or something else where they are all exactly the same. the a4's have 10:1 compression, while the a's have 10.6:1. the type s engines have 11:1. all depends on what year engine and probably how healthy it is too
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

He is talking about the a vs. the a4 and he doesn't understand why they are both rated at 200hp. But ****, I don't know. To the OP, take a look at the wikipedia article.

Honda H engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have the H22A rated at 187, 197, and 217. It varies between the Prelude Si's, SiR's, Type-S's, Accord EuroR's and SiR's. All H22A1's are rated at 187, and H22A4's at 197. So even though you may have an H22A, the power is still gonna vary. So basically... WTF Honda? lol. I'm assuming some of them produced for certain countries were tweaked to comply with stricter emissions, thus a loss of power occured. Who knows.
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

are you running a jdm ecu?
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

are the H22a results from japan...? because they have different gas and whatnot.., and I could see there being a difference in that, plus maybe the ecu..
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Re: H22a4 overrated? Or JDM h22a Underrated? HP wise

Who knows where they were rated. You'd figure all at the same place, as that would be consistent, but who the hell knows. lol. And yeah, they run 98 octane over there at like, bare minimum. I think they can even get 110. *jealous*
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I guess it just depends, on what bendeez said about the ecu.
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