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ALL the reasons WHY your wheels vibrate...

I love you guys, so i decided to help yall and drop some info about this from experiences i have had, if it helps any let me know, also more info added is a plus in my book so please add if you want...also if this is in the wrong area/category feel free to move it. well here weeeee gooooo



Why your (nice or ugly) wheels might vibrate; causes and answers...almost


this is number 1. You're probably driving on some crappy road...dont assume its your wheels already.

how to fix it?
well go drive somewhere else duhhh!

2. over tightened lug nuts. (girls dont check you out when your doing it wrong)

how to fix it?
just loosen them up when you jack up your car, then hand tighten them, not with your full strength! then lower your car back down and re-tighten them going from left right up down pattern, you will be surprised how often people over look this one.

3. unbalanced tires (you had to buy used tires you cheap monkey!)

how to fix it?
go to your nearest tire shop and ask them if they have a free balanced tire policy for customers. i had always thought this was a scam that tire dealers did to their customers and never thought this was something that fixed my tire vibration problem, but it does! unbalanced tires ride uneven and cause alot of noise and premature tire wear.

4. less/too much air (never check or did it yourself huh?)
how to fix it?
if you have an air guage handy then itll help alot. read on your tires where it shows the max load PSI and itll tell you where you should be at. sometimes being a little lower is fine and handles alot better but itll create some noise. having too much air is very dangerous and you will hear little pebble noises alot more. some gas stations have air gauges for you to use for free so take advantage of that.

5. bent wheels (hitting all those curbs dont help here buddy)

how to fix it?
you can either get your wheels fixed at a wheel shop that does that or you can go buy some new ones...it sucks but little bends in rims cause vibration that can be bothersome.

6. Alignment is wack aka camber or caster (a little lower than most...praise the lowered )

how to fix it?
get your alignment done at a tireshop that specializes in that type of thing. wont cost too much but it will if you do a 4 wheel alignment! hahaha

7. crappy or destroyed axles (cuz you were tryna drift in a ff)

how to fix it?
go to an autoparts store that specializes in imports (or whatever kind you have) and find the same one for yours in OEM or a good aftermarket brand. some might be REbuilt but often they lead you to purchase another set. if you can replace the axles yourself, good for you because i cant, so go to a shop to get it done, then do an alignment!!!

* below submitted by whomster*

8. missing or incorrect hubcentric on aftermarket wheels (little black ring that comes with wheels) when this is missing it cause a high speed vibration
as the wheels will be centered to the studs (stud centric) instead of the hub hence hub centric. (dont be a cheap o like me...just buy the ones with the rising hub piece in the center)

how to fix :get the right ones , four of em.

9. bump /blister in tire or flat spot caused by lock up during heavy braking. vibration in steering wheel while driving generally means one of the front tires in the seat of your pants means the rear.

how to fix: replace tires on given axle.

*below submitted by bb4 bkh*

11. wheel bearings. if they're bad, they'll give vibrations sometimes. (its in your manual...learn to read! LOL)

how to fix?
uhhh duhhh, get some new wheel bearingsss LOL

12. bad control arms, ball joints and tie rods, etc. (going low offset just to look cool at your local meet...)

how to fix?
replace those needed. when replacing though make sure you replace BOTH sides.

13. mud or snow in your wheel. throws it off balance. (preludes worst enemy besides the celica, is nature)

how to fix?
pray that it stops snowing or raining. LOL, make sure your wheels are clean and be careful of where you drive

*below submitted by 95SE*
14. seized calipers. (think of initial D when they were doing the LAST MINUTE BRAKING TECHNIQUE!!!)

how to fix?
usually when your calipers seize you should stop and wait for the rotors to cool down abit...also if you carry tools like i do, take a flat head and seperate the pad/caliper from the rotor. more than likely you will need to change the caliper. when you do make sure you put grease on it.


*below submitted by 4mman*
15. Feathering. (when you knew you should of rotated them tires when momma told you to)

how to fix?
well first you should of rotated the tires to create the even wear on both sides of the tires, but at the point where its too late...you gotta go replace them. its gonna cost you unless you dont mind the bumpy uneven drive.
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Re: ALL the reasons WHY you wheels vibrate...

Good info man! *Repped*

this should be sticky'ed in the general area. just my $.02
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thanks man i just wanted to help those who have that problem and noone wants to answer because they see it all the time
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I heard bad brake pads cause vibrations too.
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why did you put this in the 4th gen section?? it helps everyone.
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Re: ALL the reasons WHY you wheels vibrate...

very, very, very good thread verno!! we need more threads like this/people like you


even tho i thought it was absolutely common knowledge, someone's thread yesterday made me think otherwise;

wheels shake/vibrate like hell when pressing the brakes; warped rotors.

how to fix; get new rotors, duhhhh
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dang man, good info
so my front right right rim is bent slighty. am i gonna have to shell out the cash or is there a way i can fix it? im almost certain i cant fix it myself.
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^^ nope, can't fix yourself.

just google "wheel repair" and find the closest place to you.
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MOVED!! and stickied..

why did you put this in the 4th gen section?? it helps everyone.

well i own a 4th gen, so i dont know where else to put it!!! LOL besides, im new here jeezzzz hahaha

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very, very, very good thread verno!! we need more threads like this/people like you


even tho i thought it was absolutely common knowledge, someone's thread yesterday made me think otherwise;

wheels shake/vibrate like hell when pressing the brakes; warped rotors.

how to fix; get new rotors, duhhhh
i got another little write upish coming ahead...lol common sense to some people aint common to others bro thats why i made this, so people can stop asking the same stinkin questions hahaha

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dang man, good info
so my front right right rim is bent slighty. am i gonna have to shell out the cash or is there a way i can fix it? im almost certain i cant fix it myself.
you can get it fixed or do it yourself...you need to heat up the rims with a butane torch for a bit and hammer that bent part a little at a time...ive done it and thats what they do at the shops


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^hah... yeah right... nice try HondaVerno... in an ideal world this would work.

the STOOPID questions never end... and everyone jumps on those threads sending them to the most active column, which causes lazy people like me with little extra time to miss the good threads.
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LOL thats true...thats why i was thinkin about leaving it in ALL the preludes (1-5th) thread as a sticky on top...itll make people see it easier and its universal, so if they are for example...a 3rd gen, most likely they wont ever check out the 5th gen site, but if the thread is ALSO on theirs, then BAMMMMM!!! no stupid questions!
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14. seized calipers. (think of initial D when they were doing the LAST MINUTE BRAKING TECHNIQUE!!!)

how to fix?
usually when your calipers seize you should stop and wait for the rotors to cool down abit...also if you carry tools like i do, take a flat head and seperate the pad/caliper from the rotor. more than likely you will need to change the caliper. when you do make sure you put grease on it.

Ok i want everyone to laugh at this and call me a dumb ass. I was alot younger and had no clue what the hell i was doing or the repercussions of my actions. I was driving a 97 mitsubitchy Mirage. The front left caliper had locked up on it and i had to get to work that day. Sooo I drove it to work. I get to work get out and there is some Funkysmell. I look down at my wheel and the hubcap had literally melted on the rim. Looking back im glad i didnt do serioujs damage to the car. I bought a new caliper and put it on my self.
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Very nice writeup, and very well written, however I disagree with one point:

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6. Alignment is wack aka camber or caster (a little lower than most)

how to fix it?
get your alignment done at a tireshop that specializes in that type of thing. wont cost too much but it will if you do a 4 wheel alignment! hahaha
I would never take my car to a tyre shop for a wheel alignment. A tyre shop's prime function/reason for existance is to sell tyres. Wheel alignment when done correctly saves tyres, enabling them to last longer. While I don't think many tyre shops skimp on wheel alignments in the hope that the tyres will go off quickly, and they'll score another sale, I know for a fact that some local ones do.

While I admit that I"m probably just being a pedantic bastard, I always go to a specialist suspension shop and have them align the wheels; because they dont' have tyres to sell. The service costs a little more, but I'm willing to pay it.
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I would never take my car to a tyre shop for a wheel alignment. A tyre shop's prime function/reason for existance is to sell tyres. Wheel alignment when done correctly saves tyres, enabling them to last longer. While I don't think many tyre shops skimp on wheel alignments in the hope that the tyres will go off quickly, and they'll score another sale, I know for a fact that some local ones do.

While I admit that I"m probably just being a pedantic bastard, I always go to a specialist suspension shop and have them align the wheels; because they dont' have tyres to sell. The service costs a little more, but I'm willing to pay it.

LOL i dont know where YOU ARE FROM but where im at the tire places here have alignment specialists now. hmmm you typed in tire as tyre... LOL

and if a tire ever has a problem, its 100% rechangeable. you would be soooo surprised at todays advancement in shops now adays...also i have noticed the tire specialists are the ones that are trying to rip people off because of the low amount of customers

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14. seized calipers. (think of initial D when they were doing the LAST MINUTE BRAKING TECHNIQUE!!!)

how to fix?
usually when your calipers seize you should stop and wait for the rotors to cool down abit...also if you carry tools like i do, take a flat head and seperate the pad/caliper from the rotor. more than likely you will need to change the caliper. when you do make sure you put grease on it.

Ok i want everyone to laugh at this and call me a dumb ass. I was alot younger and had no clue what the hell i was doing or the repercussions of my actions. I was driving a 97 mitsubitchy Mirage. The front left caliper had locked up on it and i had to get to work that day. Sooo I drove it to work. I get to work get out and there is some Funkysmell. I look down at my wheel and the hubcap had literally melted on the rim. Looking back im glad i didnt do serioujs damage to the car. I bought a new caliper and put it on my self.
Are you happy that this is on there? LOL man i know how you feel on some of these i posted...
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Re: ALL the reasons WHY you wheels vibrate...

3 - Unbalanced Tires - If your tires are out of balance, then you'll get that vibration at high speeds. If you have a low speed vibration, forget the balance, it's something else.

Separated Tire - When the inner bands that make up your tire separate, you'll get a low speed vibration. Sometimes you can see it in the form of a slight widening in an area of the tread, other times, there will be a bulge in the tread itself. A separated tire is no good and definitely requires immediate replacement.

4 - Less/Too Much Air - Never ever ever go by the max load pressure on the tire. That is the maximum amount of air that that TIRE can handle, while the amount of air pressure that is ideal for the VEHICLE that the tire is on, may vary. Generally, a P-rated tire will max out at 44 p.s.i., if my memory serves me, while almost every car will be in the 28-32 p.s.i. range. In fact, if on your Prelude say, you went to 44 p.s.i. you'll get a lot more wear on your tires than if you went with 32 p.s.i. In any vehicle you own, there will be a placard on the inside of the drivers door. It will have your recommended pressures on it.

5 - Bent Wheels - While a banged up rim can absolutely cause a vibration, it's not the fact that there is a bend in it that causes the vibration. The vibration in a bent rim is caused by excessive runout, which is a fancy term for, when a tire shop spins your wheel assembly on a balancing machine, runout is any deviation from a true circle whether that be up and down motion or side to side motion. So if you have a bent rim, it definitely could be the cause, but it does need to be checked for runout before determining if that is the cause for sure.


And one more possible cause that wasn't mentioned is feathering, when the shoulders of your tires start to wear more one on side of a tread block than another. In severe cases you can get a pretty bad wobble. It's most common in big trucks, but definitely an issue with car tires as well. The cure is to make sure that you're rotating your tires regularly.

Hopefully this is useful information to someone out there.
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#3 is correct

#4. i actually ask my buddy that works at discount tires and he says that you are correct on the recommend tire pressures thats on the inside of the door...BUT once you go plus sizes and thinner/thicker tires, you throw ALL of that out the windowwwwwwww. LOL seeing that alot of people here use different tires and rims, it made sense for me to put it the way it is now.

#5. LOL when i mean bent wheels, i dont mean just banged up from the outside. BUT a slight hit/curbing does cause a bad runout and thats what i mean. besides that you are on the MONEY!

as for "feathering" lets just call that camber wear esp with passenger vehicles. this is pretty common and rotating tires can do justice...i didnt add this on here?!?! ;p
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Hm....I'll be honest, I've been busting tires for over a year now, and I do pretty much 70% custom rims where the customer is playing around with sizing, and I would never do anything other than the placards rating. Dunno, that's what I go by, but, maybe your buddy knows something I don't.

And the feathering is a separate issue from camber. Camber will chew up the entire shoulder, while feathering will only chew up one side of the tread block.

http://www.ohtsutires.com/images/tir..._edge_wear.jpg

And the feathering can occur either parallel or perpendicular to the tires rotation.

So yah, I dunno, hopefully that clears up the feathering because it is a separate issue from caster and as far as tire pressure goes, heck, i say go to 100 and have someone video taping : ) a tire zipper is a wonderful sight to behold!
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hmmm....feathering might just be added then LOL! that pic doesnt do much justice but thats fine

btw whats the solution for feathering? this thread needs the problem, a funny side note (too lighten the burden of depression LOL), and a solution! thanks alot!

guys if there is more let me know and like i said in the first post, all info will be looked at and then added to the list. this is just to help out all luders and maybe those "other" cars hahaha
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Feathering usually occurs when you never rotate your tires. Beyond just helping the tires wear evenly, if you don't rotate them, they start to develop those ridges and they just get progressively worse. By the time you can actually see feathering though, the best - (read ONLY if you love your car) course of action is to replace them. So yah, rotations every 10,000 km is the only way to prevent feathering from happening. And once it happes, you're too far gone.
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whats 10,000 km converted? LOL ADDED! thanks man for the info!
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Feathering usually occurs when you never rotate your tires. Beyond just helping the tires wear evenly, if you don't rotate them, they start to develop those ridges and they just get progressively worse. By the time you can actually see feathering though, the best - (read ONLY if you love your car) course of action is to replace them. So yah, rotations every 10,000 km is the only way to prevent feathering from happening. And once it happes, you're too far gone.


Just to point out it also happens with rubbish tyres almost as a matter of course IMO, and also ties in with incorrect tyre pressures too.

I put a set of 17" Falcons on one of my old whips and the tyres feathered like crazy. I always stick with Avon/Kuhmo/Michelin depending on how flush I'm feeling.
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LOL i dont know where YOU ARE FROM but where im at the tire places here have alignment specialists now. hmmm you typed in tire as tyre... LOL
Correct, I spell it the right way..only your screwey country that spells it with an I. Same as you have your own spelling for the word "metre" which is fking hilarious considering it's a measurement you guys don't use.

And I'm not suggesting the people in tyre shops don't have the best equipment or know how to use it. My reasoning is that a friend of mine used to work in a tyre shop where it was practically a rule to not set the wheel alignment properly if it was a late model prestige car. They would pretty much sum a person up as they drove in and decide there and then based on what they drove and how they dressed whether or not they'd be good for another tyre or two in six or eight weeks time. And what's worse is that I know the practice isn't restricted to that one chain. As per usual it's one arsehole ruining it for the rest who are doing the right thing.
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well you dont have much to worry about when youre here. lol the strict regulations that work places have now will protect the consumer alot more than the employees...which is not always good but you get what i mean. i understand some places are a little shady and well, we have places like that too, but they are usually the small little family owned tire shop, or just the small one in general.
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2. over tightened lug nuts. (girls dont check you out when your doing it wrong)

how to fix it?
just loosen them up when you jack up your car, then hand tighten them, not with your full strength! then lower your car back down and re-tighten them going from left right up down pattern, you will be surprised how often people over look this one.
Actually, that would fix improper tightening, which is why you always do a star pattern. Overtightening is caused by not torquing your lugs to the required specs. Which can cause rotor warping, tire shake, etc.

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3. unbalanced tires (you had to buy used tires you cheap monkey!)

how to fix it?
go to your nearest tire shop and ask them if they have a free balanced tire policy for customers. i had always thought this was a scam that tire dealers did to their customers and never thought this was something that fixed my tire vibration problem, but it does! unbalanced tires ride uneven and cause alot of noise and premature tire wear.
There are two types of balancing, dynamic and static. I won't go into detail but most modern balancers (like hunter) do both, and you need both. Any rotating part on your car is balanced so it doesn't cause a wobble, and your tires are no exception. This is a must.

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4. less/too much air (never check or did it yourself huh?)
how to fix it?
if you have an air guage handy then itll help alot. read on your tires where it shows the max load PSI and itll tell you where you should be at. sometimes being a little lower is fine and handles alot better but itll create some noise. having too much air is very dangerous and you will hear little pebble noises alot more. some gas stations have air gauges for you to use for free so take advantage of that.
First off, ONLY check your tires when they are cold. This means that in the last hour you have driven less than 1 mile. Why? Because when they are hot, your air pressure goes up, and you won't get an accurate reading. Also, never inflate to the max load number, your psi should be at least 5psi below that when cold.

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5. bent wheels (hitting all those curbs dont help here buddy)

how to fix it?
you can either get your wheels fixed at a wheel shop that does that or you can go buy some new ones...it sucks but little bends in rims cause vibration that can be bothersome.
This is where balancing your tires comes in handy. Even if your rims are bent and they can't get the tire balanced properly, they can always forcematch the rim, which means they rotate the rim inside the tire to better balance it. Sometimes though this is not possible (really bent rims) so you need new ones.

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6. Alignment is wack aka camber or caster (a little lower than most...praise the lowered )

how to fix it?
get your alignment done at a tireshop that specializes in that type of thing. wont cost too much but it will if you do a 4 wheel alignment! hahaha
You should ALWAYS do a 4 wheel alignment. The front tires follow the rears (yes, it's true) so if your rear toe is off it will throw off your alignment angles, even if your front was just aligned. If you align a car, you always align the REAR FIRST. If you align the front, and then do the rear, when you check the alignment of the front again it WILL be off spec. Like I said, the front tires follow the rear, and if your thrust angle is off, your whole front will be off. Now, alignments are not a cure all by any means, but they are important, and can help in finding other problems.

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7. crappy or destroyed axles (cuz you were tryna drift in a ff)

how to fix it?
go to an autoparts store that specializes in imports (or whatever kind you have) and find the same one for yours in OEM or a good aftermarket brand. some might be REbuilt but often they lead you to purchase another set. if you can replace the axles yourself, good for you because i cant, so go to a shop to get it done, then do an alignment!!!
You need to get an alignment after replacing ANY front end steering or suspension components, whether it's a ball joint or a strut rod.

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9. bump /blister in tire or flat spot caused by lock up during heavy braking. vibration in steering wheel while driving generally means one of the front tires in the seat of your pants means the rear.

how to fix: replace tires on given axle.
Actually vibration in the steering wheel is probably more often caused by warped rotors, in which case you will feel it only when braking.

*below submitted by bb4 bkh*

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11. wheel bearings. if they're bad, they'll give vibrations sometimes. (its in your manual...learn to read! LOL)

how to fix?
uhhh duhhh, get some new wheel bearingsss LOL
Wheel bearings will cause nasty vibration and possibly noise, usually when turning.

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12. bad control arms, ball joints and tie rods, etc. (going low offset just to look cool at your local meet...)

how to fix?
replace those needed. when replacing though make sure you replace BOTH sides.
Don't forget strut rods (radius rods) they control fore and aft movement on the tire on 5th gens, and are prone to bending because of scraping or bottoming out.

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14. seized calipers. (think of initial D when they were doing the LAST MINUTE BRAKING TECHNIQUE!!!)

how to fix?
usually when your calipers seize you should stop and wait for the rotors to cool down abit...also if you carry tools like i do, take a flat head and seperate the pad/caliper from the rotor. more than likely you will need to change the caliper. when you do make sure you put grease on it.
If you stick a pry bar or other utensile in between the pad and rotor and crank away, you will damage the pad/rotor. Also make sure you do a proper brake job, use grease where it needs it, and push the caliper piston back in with the bleed screw cracked. This makes it easier and prevents the nasty fluid around your brakes from getting to the sensitive ABS controller. Also, HANG YOUR CALIPERS, using copper wire or equivalent DO NOT let your calipers hang by the brake line. This could cause a tear on the line (inside) and will more than likely cause a blowout, among other things.


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15. Feathering. (when you knew you should of rotated them tires when momma told you to)

how to fix?
well first you should of rotated the tires to create the even wear on both sides of the tires, but at the point where its too late...you gotta go replace them. its gonna cost you unless you dont mind the bumpy uneven drive.
Feathing tires is caused by toe angle not being in spec. An alignment is due. But yes you do need to rotate your tires regulary.
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I have learned a lot here. I thank you all who participated on this write up. From one who just want to throw stone over one's fence or just to tease one's butt to the IDIOT reader (like me:P) It's the brainstorming part of it that's really beneficial if not stoo-feed!
I am just wondering why treat the other gen(s) like it's a shot? Where we could be looking at them by extending a hand to get them poorly, half-baked, less-powered gen(s) to be more enjoyable for them and thanking them for being the ones to have it; not YOU, ME or US. I have a '96 Prelude VTEC and all I want is to enjoy it, wash it (like 3x a week? LOLs-kidding), do what others have done to theirs (if I can afford the expensiveness of it) and perhaps be able to come to a MEET so I can appreciate what I have more. And get whatever I can take from this kind of community and put it into good use - perhaps xfer it onto my kid.
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I have learned a lot here. I thank you all who participated on this write up. From one who just want to throw stone over one's fence or just to tease one's butt to the IDIOT reader (like me:P) It's the brainstorming part of it that's really beneficial if not stoo-feed!
I am just wondering why treat the other gen(s) like it's a shot? Where we could be looking at them by extending a hand to get them poorly, half-baked, less-powered gen(s) to be more enjoyable for them and thanking them for being the ones to have it; not YOU, ME or US. I have a '96 Prelude VTEC and all I want is to enjoy it, wash it (like 3x a week? LOLs-kidding), do what others have done to theirs (if I can afford the expensiveness of it) and perhaps be able to come to a MEET so I can appreciate what I have more. And get whatever I can take from this kind of community and put it into good use - perhaps xfer it onto my kid.
Ok, 'nuff of this Siyet! I am no righteous... I just wanna be with you guys here and enjoy and learn.
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i did not understand what you just said...but i hope the thread helped you LOL
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