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what engine is this?

hi everyone,

on my engine, it has engraved H22 and a code 1046724 just below it, this is located near the exhaust manifold,


now on my radiator support, theres a jap stamp that says:

E-BB1
BB1-1100415
H22A-1040374

This is all on one stamp

I am trying to find out what year my car is, all this time i was told it was a 1992. on the inside of my car door panel. it says SI-VTEC.

What year is my car? i just got the chilton's repair manual for the 84-95 model prelude/accord, and it says h22a1 for engine codes and none that say just H22A, can someone please tell me what year my engine is from the code?

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Re: what engine is this?

u have a jdm h22a... there is only one way to really see around what year it is from.. and that is if it is obd1 or obd2
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Re: what engine is this?

now how do i do that?

where does it say obd1 or obd2? is it definately withing 92-96? because im looking at some extractors on ebay for 92-96 h22a engines, fits?

also if this helps: it takes z79a oil filters, z359 fuel filters, it took a bb1 power steering pump
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Re: what engine is this?

You can tell the chassis's year by looking at the VIN -- the letter just before the "C" represents the year. If your door plate says "SI-VTEC", I'm betting it's a '93 ("P") or perhaps a '94 ("Q"). If it's a North American car, it's not a '92...the VTEC-powered cars didn't make it over until the next year.

If the engine is orginal to the car, then, it's also a '93, so OBD-I (again, assuming a North American car). If it's not original, it's hard to tell from the markings. If it's OBD-II and the wiring harness is complete, there should be a multi-pin connector for the scan tool hanging somewhere -- in OBD-II equipped cars, they're usually near the interior fuse box, but if it's a swap, no telling.
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Re: what engine is this?

well my car is in australia now with me, it was from japan,

there is, under the dash just behind the cd player, a little connecting thing with 2 holes, and this is what i stuff a paper clip into for the engine light to give me a code, any help?

and my vin number, all its got is: 6F91MPORT n a bunch of letters after it..
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Re: what engine is this?

Enter your VIN number here. It should answer your question.

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Re: what engine is this?

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If it's OBD-II and the wiring harness is complete, there should be a multi-pin connector for the scan tool hanging somewhere -- in OBD-II equipped cars, they're usually near the interior fuse box, but if it's a swap, no telling.
the obd2 connector placement is pending on the center, if it has the cupholder then it sets under it.
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Re: what engine is this?

mine had a cup holder in the centre console, but it hasnt got the massive centre console that goes into the back seat, mine is relatively small.

that website to enter your vin number is working for my vin number.. i just need to know whether the 1992-1996 OBX exhaust headers will fit my ride..


and it would be good to know what year my car is also, its a pain in the arse trying to find parts for it.

the only thing i can say, it has a little blue connection hanging behind the cd player area, and i use a paper clip to complete the circuit and it makes the engine light flash long and short..

1993,1994,1995 or 1996??
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Re: what engine is this?

if i post up a pic of my engine, would anyone be able to tell what year it is? also it has the electronic climate control on the inside..
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Re: what engine is this?

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well my car is in australia now with me, it was from japan,

there is, under the dash just behind the cd player, a little connecting thing with 2 holes, and this is what i stuff a paper clip into for the engine light to give me a code, any help?
Somewhat. To start, I can stop giving advice based on U.S./Canadian models. :)

OK...your VIN is what's stamped on the radiator support: BB1-1100415. The chassis (BB1) tells me it's a 4WS car (2WS JDM SI-VTECs were coded BB4). Could be anything between 1991 (the 4th gen was introduced mid-year in Japan, and JDM year groups seem to be a bit different) and 1996, since JDM cars kept the "SI-VTEC" moniker for the whole run. Unfortuantely, I haven't found how to read the year from Japanese VINs (yet). The engine probably isn't swapped unless for mileage reasons -- H22A is the stock engine for the car, though.

The pigtail you found behind the CD player indicates OBD I in a U.S. car, but I don't have any details on early JDM on-board diagnostics. They did go to the OBD II standard later.
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Re: what engine is this?

Jamie,

my car does have 4WS, it is a bb1 chassis, it took a bb1 p/s pump, could you pleaes let me know when u find out how to read the jap vin's? do you need a picture of the engine to help?

Somewhat. To start, I can stop giving advice based on U.S./Canadian models. :)

and i think it is a obd1 also, i had a problem with the knock sensor (code23) and got it disabled, so yeh.. if that helps in anywayy
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Re: what engine is this?

Ok how about you just give us your vin number or check this page out.
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Ok how about you just give us your vin number or check this page out.
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I already tried something similar for him earlier. He obviously didn't use it though because the conversation continues...
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Re: what engine is this?

i did try it randall, and nothing is coming up

okay, my vin number is : 6F9IMPORTWHLT7031 (it either IMPORT OR 1MPORT)

on the rad support, the jap stamp has got in this order decending down:

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Re: what engine is this?

according to the 10th Character(Model Year) it is a 98.... think they still used obd1 on a 98 model? also the 1st character 6 = Australia.... but the fact that it has import in the vin makes me think they gave the car a custom vin number when it was imported
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Re: what engine is this?

That's not even the format for our VIN codes so something is wrong.
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I already tried something similar for him earlier. He obviously didn't use it though....
Doesn't matter, because that VIN decoder is for North American-market cars, and the car we're talking about is a JDM import to Australia.

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That's not even the format for our VIN codes...
...is exactly right. JDM VINs are in a completely different format. I've been looking for the disk with my VIN codes article -- I may have some notes that'll help -- but it's hidden someplace safe right now...safe enough that I can't find it!

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im looking at some extractors on ebay for 92-96 h22a engines, fits?
Extractor = exhaust manifold = header? They should fit across the range. You can't use an H23 manifold on an H22, though -- IIRC, the bolt pattern's different. On the exhaust system, the primary difference between OBD I and OBD II is the O2 sensors -- the later system has an additional O2 sensor downstream of the cat, and a heater circuit on the sensors themselves. The mount in the header should be the same either way, though.

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i just got the chilton's repair manual for the 84-95 model prelude/accord
Do yourself a favor and use the Chilton's manual to line the bottom of the birdcage -- it's more useful for that than for working on the car. Snag a copy of the factory manual for any '93-'96 Prelude -- although most online copies are for North American cars, most of the systems are the same. (Better yet, get a printed copy -- easier to prop up on the engine.) Besides which, it sounds like the Chilton's manual you have is for U.S. cars anyhow.
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Re: what engine is this?

If I'm reading correctly, the site directly states, "This VIN identification engine suits 4th generation Preludes only. It is unique and can identify Preludes from all markets, as VIN description of North American and Japanese market vehicles are different from European ones."

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Except it doesn't work, does it? :) I'm familiar with the site, and checked it again to see if there's been an addition. Unfortunately, it doesn't accept the JDM VIN format -- doesn't even recognize it as a valid number.

It does have a good description of most differences across 4th gens in different markets, though.
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Except it doesn't work, does it? :) I'm familiar with the site, and checked it again to see if there's been an addition. Unfortunately, it doesn't accept the JDM VIN format -- doesn't even recognize it as a valid number.

It does have a good description of most differences across 4th gens in different markets, though.
No it does not, but I didn't know that in my original post. I figured it wasn't lying, so it should have worked. Either way, I had no way of knowing because my Lude is an American model. THE SITE IS A SHAM!!!!! Debate settled
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As far as I know the 2nd O2 sensor is a USDM thing. My AUDM 5th gen doesn't have one. Also doesn't show up in the EUDM EPC. The JDM EPC shows a 2nd sensor, but that would probably be for temperature only and OBD1 Prelude's have it to.
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Re: what engine is this?

hey jamie,

if u find the jdm vin numbers, could you please let me know? i have a feeling its a 1992, theres a bar under my car ( looks like an axle or something, its black and has a sticker saying 92) ? but to make sure, please let me know
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I will find some time to sort through my desk tonight and see if I can find the disk.
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