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Old 04-27-2010, 09:00 PM
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Starting to start hard

If this has already been posted I apologize. I tried the search function but couldn't find anything.

Normally my 97 will crank up on right off the bat when I turn the key. Lately, especially when its been sitting for a while (8 hours or so), when I turn the key it rolls over about 5 to 6 times and then cranks up. After its been run it will crank up on the first or second turn over. What needs to be replaced? I have brand new NGK's and brand new wires, battery cables.
I'm still new to the prelude and love it. Thanks to the forums I'm cleaning my EGR valve and ports this weekend. Replaced my valve cover gasket last weekend. This is basically my project car and something to mess around with. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Starting to start hard

My 4g lude has been doing that since I got it like 5 months ago lol. Never figured it out. Did plugs, wires, cap and rotor (just to know when they were done, ya know?), seafoamed the engine, seafoam in the gas tank... now I gotta get down to slightly more invasive possibilities lol.
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Re: Starting to start hard

when was the timing belt replaced?
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Re: Starting to start hard

Could be a couple of things. You replace the battery cables, but how old is the battery? Could be not holding a charge as well as it used to when it sits. Simple fix.

The other possibility that comes to mind is oil seeping through the valve stem seals and coating on the plugs when it sits for awhile -- pull a plug when it's cold and see what it looks like, or look for a puff of black smoke when starting. If that's the case, just live with it -- it'll continue starting, and it's not worth messing with the seals for what's a little bit of leaking.
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Re: Starting to start hard

Sorry to dig an old thread, but only a few came up when I searched for this issue.

I've started having the same hard start that takes 5-7 cranks only when the car has been sitting for 2-3 hours. It starts on 1-2 cranks first thing when it's cold and also when it's hot.

It's a 99 base with 175km. The battery sounds strong when it cranks, and it has new front O2, spark plugs, VC and plug gaskets, wires, coil, distributor cap and rotor done within the last year.

I've found many Honda forums discussing this issue and many suggestions, but I don't think it's oil fouling the plugs (no smoke) or low fuel pressure because it primes and runs perfect once it starts. One person suggested maybe a brake vacuum leak allowing extra air and causing it to start lean, but this sounds remote.

Any clues?
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Re: Starting to start hard

Sometimes old cars don't start right away because they are old cars. Could be fuel pump related, where it's prime is lost after sitting. Could be piston rings worn so cold block has less compression. Could be cylinder head for similar reason. Could be grounds not as sound so not as much jolt to the spark system. Could be a hundred things. It's an old car.
Maintain it with typical schedule like plugs, wires, t-belt, oil changes etc.

If I had to bet, my $ would be on ole bessy's electrical system needs some tlc.
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Re: Starting to start hard

Even slightly colder temps will cause older cars (with older batteries) to be harder to start. My car has a VERY solid electrical system, did a lot of the wiring myself, a BRAND NEW 850 CCA battery, new OEM distributor, plugs, wires, so on and so forth. On a cold morning my car will do the exact same thing as yours. Old car is old. Don't sweat it.
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