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Common 4th Gen Issues

I didn't see it out there so i'm asking the question. What are they?

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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

Not much other than normal maintenance up through 150,000 miles. After that, expect the main relay to give problems due to solder cracks at some point -- not a difficult replacement. If it's a 4WS car, solder cracks may also affect the 4WS control unit in the trunk. Depending on how it's been cared for, you might see rust on the sunroof panel, or some minor leaking through the base of the rear window due to the seal aging. At 230,000, I'm starting to see a possible problem with the gas and temperature guage cluster -- sometimes they don't light up for a few minutes after the car starts. I haven't determined if it's actually the guage cluster or just an 18-year-old alternator, though.

If you don't have proof of when the belts (especially the timing belt) and hoses were last replaced, budget for the job -- they don't give any visual indicators before failing. Expect to see more oil use past 180-200,000 miles. Mine's using a little coolant, too, although I can't figure out where it goes...it's not getting into the oil. A well-maintained Prelude is a pretty tough car, but keep in mind even the newest 4th gen is now 14 years old and needs a little more TLC than a new Civic (probably preaching to the choir, but I have to keep reminding my kid to check the oil on the Prelude every week!).
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

^^ i think that was really well put.
im only at 160,000 and its showing some of those problems stated above.
lets see.
well with any car you have to take into consideration blown shocks or worn out springs, or both.
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

very much so rust. in the colder northern climes where we use salt on our roads to break down the snow and ice, its particularly bad in the rear fender well. my cars got 175xxx kms, and its now time for new shocks, a left balljoint or 2 and probably some brakes. but hey, beauty doesnt last forever, just keep the maintainance up and these things are bullet proof.... well...
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

18 years of awesome handling takes a toll on the bushings...lucky for me i have the master kit ordered!!! ^_^
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

ive got one of those kits from energysuspensionparts.com
big difference i must say, car is solid as a rock

ive had to replace both master and slave clutch cylinders
main relay, other than that,nothing at all went wrong

needed timing belt, tyres, brakes, and servicing, but thats just part of owning 1
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

those bushings do make a huge difference (I love mine :) )... also note the other things mentioned here... I know there are some threads that cover this, but I am not sure where...

most people start having trouble with climate control... mine got worse after the mouse infestation, but basically the selector can stop working and you have to take it apart and solder some connections... let me know if you need the thread, I have it saved.
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

they use a **** load of oil past 200,000 miles. ive got 234,000 on mine and now my type s h22 is about ready to be dropped in.
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those bushings do make a huge difference (I love mine :) )... also note the other things mentioned here... I know there are some threads that cover this, but I am not sure where...

most people start having trouble with climate control... mine got worse after the mouse infestation, but basically the selector can stop working and you have to take it apart and solder some connections... let me know if you need the thread, I have it saved.
its over you i got them, (i think)
did you post something about those before?
anyway, if you did, thanks

the whole kit cost me 180 euros shipped
i couldnt buy 1 bush in ireland for that
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

another problem on the h22a m/t, 2nd to third gear is crunchy, only when redline mode
its perectly fine other than that
its not that the gearbox is ****ed, or the syncro are gone, its just a fault when the box is old
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

ahh, speaking of which... there is an infamous 5th gear grind as well (at least on some trannies...).

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Yeah my 4th-5th grinds if I don't let the RPM's drop a bit before shifting. I've researched that a bit and it does seem to be a pretty widespread issue.
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

Same here. :( I'm assuming the only way to fix that is to get a different tranny?
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Yeah my 4th-5th grinds if I don't let the RPM's drop a bit before shifting. I've researched that a bit and it does seem to be a pretty widespread issue.
yes, if you take your time shifting, even in the high revs, its ok,
only when your shifting quickly

its not that the box is broke, dont worry people
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Same here. :( I'm assuming the only way to fix that is to get a different tranny?
a different tranny will be the same, sorry
unless your going to buy a new 1
which is silly, because your own tranny isnt broke
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a different tranny will be the same, sorry
unless your going to buy a new 1
which is silly, because your own tranny isnt broke
Well of course I wouldn't go out and buy a new one lol. I was just curious if that was the only way to fix that grind.
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Re: Common 4th Gen Issues

obviously numb nuts, a new box will probably cost more than the car
its pointless looking for another, youll have the same problem

try and change the gear oil plus add some slick 50 treatment to it
its what ive done, i now have a smoother crunch, if you know what i mean

if you dont, your a numb nuts and il explain it like this

ITS NOT AS BAD AS IT WAS LOL
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hi all i new to preludes can anyone help please got 4th gen vtec car runs great at lower speeds but when u try to accelerate quickly check engine light comes on ,can anyone tell me is there any way to read codes yourself and how to do it . thanks in advance
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if the ceil says on you may be able to read it.^^^

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If it's OBD II, most auto parts stores will read the code for you, too.
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4th gen having problems starting

My brother has a beautiful dark green 4th generation Honda prelude. About 2 weeks ago for some reason it suddenly quit on him. He took it into a body shop for repairs while he was away. that was 2 weeks ago.


Today my bro and I took his car, got it gassed up, topped up the oil etc. we then headed for the chamois wash. we were in line waiting and my bro turned of the car. when he went to start it again it wouldn't start. The mechanic thinks its a sensor that's over heating or something.

my question is has anyone else ever had this problem before and if so what was wrong with the car and how did it get fixed?

any advice is very welcome as my brother and I aare both very frusterated by this.

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If it's not wanting to start when warm, replace the main relay. Search on the term "main relay", and you'll come up with all the detail you need. Common issue for all '90s Hondas.
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Yeah 5th gear grind In fast shifting. And main relay.
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You guys forgot about the infamous Broken Antenna and the rear shock knock.
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Thankyou so much for your help. My bro picked up his beautiful baby yesterday and actually brought me the old main relay as a gift since I did the "detective work" as he called it. His new main relay comes from Intermotors. what do you guys know about that company?

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- rust
- automatic gearbox
- automatic timing belt tensioner
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