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lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

is there any harm in havin a lightweight flywheel paired with a stock clutch?


(swapping the motor and figured might as well change the flywheel...didnt wanna get a clutch too cuz i had just changed mine a little less than a year ago)
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is there any harm in havin a lightweight flywheel paired with a stock clutch?


(swapping the motor and figured might as well change the flywheel...didnt wanna get a clutch too cuz i had just changed mine a little less than a year ago)
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but no, no harm at all. You'd be perfectly fine w/ a stock clutch. But since your already going to have the motor and trans apart its really in your best interest to invest in a better clutch now. Even if its not anything crazy. Get somethin that'll last you awhile. I loved my exedy, and I've heard nothing but good about them. Honda even uses them as OEM clutch designers.

If you do decide to go w/ an aftermarket clutch, I'll help you out w/ whatever you need to know. I actually did a lot of research on clutch designs and applications a few months ago. I'm no expert, but I can certainly point you in the right direction.
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Good stuff. I was actually looking into getting a lightweight flywheel as well. I have also been told if I'm going to replace the flywheel I might as well replace the clutch too. So it might be something you'll want to look into.
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man, another older PZ member. People like you man, make me miss the old PZ. The lively PZ.

but no, no harm at all. You'd be perfectly fine w/ a stock clutch. But since your already going to have the motor and trans apart its really in your best interest to invest in a better clutch now. Even if its not anything crazy. Get somethin that'll last you awhile. I loved my exedy, and I've heard nothing but good about them. Honda even uses them as OEM clutch designers.

If you do decide to go w/ an aftermarket clutch, I'll help you out w/ whatever you need to know. I actually did a lot of research on clutch designs and applications a few months ago. I'm no expert, but I can certainly point you in the right direction.
lol yea man i might be back for a bit since the prelude should be good again....n yea i had replaced with an exedy oem type clutch back then ....cars already under the knife right now and the shop had called yesterday asking if i have a clutch and i think he said the stock clutch could do damage to the lightweight flywheel (or vice versa)....so i told him i could order it today if i really need it but then he said "no it should be fine" and that he just thought i had another clutch already..........so i just wanted to make sure it was fine or was thinking maybe they just didnt wanna wait for the part to come in..
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lol yea man i might be back for a bit since the prelude should be good again....n yea i had replaced with an exedy oem type clutch back then ....cars already under the knife right now and the shop had called yesterday asking if i have a clutch and i think he said the stock clutch could do damage to the lightweight flywheel (or vice versa)....so i told him i could order it today if i really need it but then he said "no it should be fine" and that he just thought i had another clutch already..........so i just wanted to make sure it was fine or was thinking maybe they just didnt wanna wait for the part to come in..
I'm sure there are people on here that run OEM spec clutches w/ light weight flywheels and have no probs whatsoever. just gotta find them. I see a lot of people w/ stage 1 clutches and upgraded flywheels no problems. The difference between OEM spec and most "stage 1" clutches is about 20-30 horsepower, and up to like 40 ft lbs of torque. the only differences besides that I would say is material. and even then, the OEM spec materials would wear on themselves quicker than they would wear on a flywheel. going up in stages or levels of clutch would only make it even more harsh.
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ok cool thanks..hopefully all goes well...im supposed to pick the car up tomorrow :)
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id recommen a light flywheel. there is a big difference
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id recommen a light flywheel. there is a big difference
yeah but dont go too light, it revs quicker with a lighter flywheel and if your just daily drivin it you dont want it wrappin up really high that fast.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

OK, whats the best weight while still maintaining drivability?

I've heard that if you go too light, the car won't idle properly.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

It depends on how you drive and your preference some will say 7lbs is good some say 12lb. A light weight flywheel will spin up faster but it will also so down faster. So in traffic the car might attempt to stall when trying to move off the line.

Less rotational mass the faster the engine can spin up.

OEM style clutch will work with the lightweight flywheel, but do not reuse the old clutch. Just as you change the pads when you do the rotors in the brakes, you should do the same for the clutch. It will help in proper clutch & flywheel break in. If you take some sand paper to the clutch it should be fine tho, just get some of the old material off the surface.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

Dwend has hit the nail on the head.

While running a stock clutch with the light flywheel won't cause any trouble, it will save trouble in the future by fitting a new clutch kit while it's all apart. Get it right now and you won't need to touch it for years.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

so i have the 8lb fidanza flywheel in...does it cause an annoying winding type of noise when hitting the gas? my friend said that its the flywheel which is what i first thought too....but i just wanna make sure
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damn wish I knew I would have sold u mine but I gave it away with the car.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

so what is the verdict on which flywheel is best for dd? i want a lighter flywheel but my car is my only car and i put about 3k every 2 months so i dont want it to be a pain in the ass. i was looking at the fidanza 8lb but i dont have much done to need an upgraded kit.

i have an exedy oem replacement, that has been in for like 2 months so i wanna get a flywheel soon. will the 8lb be ok? or should i go for like a 12 lb??

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There is no set answer and that is why they make two weights, so you can chose.
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Dude, honestly, there are no drivability problems whatsoever with an 8lb flywheel. I've had one for about a year now, and it barely takes any getting used to. For God's sake, my mom jumped in my car and drove it around the other day with no problem, and she is by no means a skilled driver.

If someone says too light a flywheel causes drivability problems, they just can't drive.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

haha well i think i decided to go with the act 11.9lb flywheel just because I'm not pushing to much power and my engine guy recommended a 10 or 12 lb and that's the only one in that range i found
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

I still say go 8lbs. No reason not to in my eyes. But it's your car.
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

well i plan on upgrading alot in the future so i will start at 11 an maybe work my way down lol. losing 7lbs is a decent drop anyways
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I plan on going with the Exedy clutch disc and plate n paired with a 8lb Fidanza Flywheel!!!
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Re: lightweight flywheel + STOCK clutch ok?

That's exactly what I have and I love it. You won't be disappointed bro.
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