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Hey Luders,

I have a '92 Si with the H23 engine, stock auto tranny. It was my first car, but came with some issues. I put about $4k in that thing, and hate to say that now my oil light flashes after about 5 minutes due to what a mechanic says is a cracked rod. It is also only barely in alignment and needs to have the frame pulled. So it's been parked.

So my question, as previously stated, is: Is it worth it to put in an h22 in, 5 speed swap and all, or am I better off financially just rebuilding the H23 and pulling the frame, or parting it out? Of course, there is always the option of selling it as is...
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

Wow man thats alot of problems. Sucks 2 hear

But if u really wanna keep her, I would prolly get the h23 rebuilt and do the 5spd swap. Orrr drop a f22 in there and do the 5spd swap. Im realllly starting 2 like f22's. Lol.

But if I was stuck in ur situation I would honestly prolly part it out or sell it and try 2 find another lude thats 5spd and go from there
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

i have a 92 si with the h22 and wouldn't trade it for anything in the world unless its an r34 skyline :-) (saying sorry to my lude for thinking those thoughts,lol.....of course your the only one for me,lol....) i say if the body is in good shape and you have already put a lot of money into it and know exactly whats good and bad on the car it might just be easier to drop an h22 and get the 5speed swap than trying to sell it and get another car that you might have to put more money into again. at least with your car if you have had it for a while theres a lot of sentimental value with it and like you stated you already put $4,000 into it that you will never get back with selling or parting it so you might as well keep it and do the swap just my opinion......and sorry about your situation it happens to all of us from time to time but its the price we pay when we love our ludes so much.
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

Man, I appreciate the encouragement. It's really just a matter of motivation...

I bought a 95 Camaro just to drive until I figured out what to do with the Lude, but that was months ago, and now the poor thing is just waiting for me to make up my friggin mind. I really REALLY wanna do the H22, but I have no idea where to start. I know there are threads on swaps, but I'm talking $$. How much does all that crap cost!?!?!?!?! I mean, can I find an H22 at a junkyard? Or should I order it? With both, what's it cost?!

These questions keep me up at night.
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

hmmm.....this is a predicament. id say h22 it with the 5 spd. it shouldnt be that much, look on Specializing in JDM-USDM Engines & Parts...hmotorsonline.com id also save up so when you got that swapped in, get the frame pulled back to spec. just treat it as a bunch of smaller projects rather than one huge one, or else youll get overwhelmed
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

The h22 really isnt a large project.. Its some simple wiring and switching over ecu's. Hell when you get it done, it will be totally worth it. What might kill you is the unibody. We charge $85 an hour at our shop to pull on a car and $70 for set up.

Where is it bent up?
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

I'm pretty sure it's mainly the front left wheel. I know I hit a curb, but I also know it was out of alignment when I bought it. After buying front tires and getting an alignment, they managed to get the front left to +1.0 camber, and the right was somewhere between +0.8 to +0.5. Stopped the massive tire wear issue I had going (6 tires within 4 months), but like I said, it can and should be better than that. I wanted it to get down to -0.5 on both sides.

And thanks for the link to the H22. I know how much a swap runs on eBay, but that's JDM (right?!) and costs more. I just want a decent H22. I'm pretty sure that I can do the swap myself, or have it done cheap; it's just a matter of having something to swap with.
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

Is this what I need to be looking at? http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30029

Are there any parts on the H23 that I can use?
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

Everything in that link seems about right as far as what you need.....as far as your tranny you can still use your H23 granted its working good, you can also use your distributor,starter, and i'm not sure on this one but maybe even the altenator......if this all seems too pricey you might get lucky and find someone on craigslist who crashed their lude and might be looking to part out their engine.....i'll wait til someone else to chime in and give you more help if not i'll come back and do more research and try and help you out......j/k good luck with your lude......but sourcing out the cash and getting the H22A from that website might be the best option if you can afford it because that engine will have a lot less miles then what were used to putting them on here in the states and not to mention a little more power.....good luck.
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

I appreciate that. The only thing is I plan to do the 5 speed swap too, instead of keeping the H23 Auto trans. But thanks all the same, it really helps!
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Hey Luders,

I have a '92 Si with the H23 engine, stock auto tranny. It was my first car, but came with some issues. I put about $4k in that thing, and hate to say that now my oil light flashes after about 5 minutes due to what a mechanic says is a cracked rod. It is also only barely in alignment and needs to have the frame pulled. So it's been parked.

So my question, as previously stated, is: Is it worth it to put in an h22 in, 5 speed swap and all, or am I better off financially just rebuilding the H23 and pulling the frame, or parting it out? Of course, there is always the option of selling it as is...
I got an h23 block the closed deck ones for 230+ shipping you can take the block to be cleaned and slap it right in..if your interested
also got a extra h22a4 head just needs throttle body.Only if you want to rebuild basically this vs cutting your cylinder walls thinner than they have to go.
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Re: Part-out, Swap, or Rebuild?

hey, i kind of have a similar problem and i was wondering if anybody could help. i have a '90 lude and i hydroplaned the right front into a curb/drain and now it wont move. lol the mechanic said i need a new subframe, axle, control arms, etc. im havin trouble finding a subframe anywhere and right now im looking for other cars to swap the subframes since otherwise my lude is in great condition. i cant find many preludes around within my price range and i was wondering if any other models would be compatible. maybe an accord or even an integra?? i really dont want to have to part out and find a new car
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