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Old 11-22-2009, 10:55 PM
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WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

Hey guys, i have several ideas for the future. im tired of haveing an all stock f22a1 with 230k miles on it and would like your opinion. all i have done is a 2 1/2 inch magnaflow catback and ebay intake.

i was thinking keep the motor and do some shopping at bisimoto.com
(valve springs, retainers, valves, 1.2 cam, rods and pistons)
then go off and put around 15 pounds @ the track and 2psi daily.
(turbo kit would be decided later down)
but also the miles on the motor kind of bother me a bit =/

OR go with the h22a w/ ITBs OR a 60 shot of nos for a nice little get up and go.

if yall have something else in mind please let me know i have considered doing something with an h23 vtec.

in reality i would like something un-commonly done in the honda enthusiast world.

some one give me some ideas if you dont like either. THANKS!
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

If your already got the F22 then stick with in IMO, when you do the mild build get the cylinders honed, just to clean them up Replace every single seal/bearing/ring/pin/ and even bolt; and get all your parts balanced and installed.

Then gather your turbo parts, and go from there.

Edit: And i would even look at getting your main/engine harness re-done, although not alot of people do it, but trust me an electrical problem is thee worst problem to have

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ive been looking into everything at this point man i forgot to mention my 3rd gear is now grinding (it isnt shot) but it is getting annoying so if i did keep it id have to fix that

Also i did find an h22a for 2000 shipped
full swap with lsd trans

then all i would need is to chip it and decide to go all motor, nos, or possibly turbo the h22? then get a tune.
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i dunno man, if i was you, id decide what engine to get first. then after that, id decide if i wanted to go n/a or FI.
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

yea man, im not to sure which one to choose thats my biggest problem at this point i am just worried if i rebuild my f22 how much it will cost me after the labor.

Edit: i have decided, i can spend as much as 4k so let me know what my possibilities are now i think this leaves me out of the equation of boost =/
my power goals are around 250 - whp.
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

h22a! cuz im an h22a bandwagon kind a guy lol. good luck with whatever you decide.
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alright thanks man any one else have any ideas??
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

Bolt-on's for the H22 do nothing, if your looking to how much your spending vs power receiving. Same with the ITB's yes they are baller, but damn just not worth the cost. Most cost effective way is rebuild w/ turbo like i mentioned earlier. Trust me the H22 isn't all that's cracked up to be unless you put a lot of cash into it. Guaranteed at first you'll love it, its a big step up from a stock F22 but you'll get bored real quick.
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you have a good point man, in which i am feelin the light build but in the end with everything said and done would this hold up to be a daily driver/ reliable?

as i said i am confused with my further goals thats why im takeing each opinion and vote into consideration.

ITB's are nice but this car isnt met for 24/7 autocross/drag i would like to get into autocross and kno NA is best for that but also want the show car appeal for meets and the reliability of a DD so im still stuck
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haha im considering it man!!
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if i did end up keeping the f22, and building it. i would probably be forced to buy an ebay turbo =/ which all reviews on them are around 75/25 (bad/good) and my biggest quote for any project is (do it right, do it once)!! So i might go up to the performance shop this week and see how much it will be for labor with them buying the parts, labor with supplied parts by me, full gasket and belt replace, water & oil pump, then possibly a supplied turbo kit) if it runs me in the game of 4000k ill consider it but im un-aware if they do balanceing i believe they just install/replace
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If you build it right it will last, and run fine as a DD/weekend warrior. If you want to go into auto-x w/ turbo car, make sure you get a smaller turbo that'll hit full boost around 2-3k.
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im looking more and more into it on accord forum set ups and stuff and im pretty impressed and some not to much. but it would deffnitly end up being something that spools up asap! =)
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yea i was in the same boat 4 awhile not shure what to do w my f22 but im gna build a G22 and turbo it and yes accord forums are the perfec tsource for this build
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I would say that if u possibly can and the funds are rite, I would try and buy another f22 and do a mild build on that one and then boost!!!! No ebay turbo kits tho. If ya wanna do it once and do it rite, get a real turbo kit or piece together one yourself
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Rebuild your f22 and boost it at 12 psi IMO!!
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the things that are done by everyday Honda owners are done for a reason... they work.

i mean c'mon do u think that those ideas haven't been thought up/tested by Honda Certified Builders. obviously they thought of it and decided that an H22a Was the best way to go.

The H22A is even making a comeback against the K20, simply because of it's bigger size, and it's capability.

i'm proud to say that my H22a Was named one of the top 10 Engines of all time to use for a build. it was #7 on the list. althought the k20a was at #3, the fact that a 10 year old engine is still running with whats out today says alot!!

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1.f22 boosted is def a great option, but not cheap. At all. your lookin at roughly 500-1000 for cheap rebuild parts (not anything really all that special, no wiseco here), upwards of 3000 for a turbo build, and depending on if you do the labor or not a lot more extra cash. Not to mention tuning, and other misc other bullshiit that your gonna need $$ for.

2. ITB's are cool. Great power for a N/A build. DEF not for the street tho. Even w/ screens those things suck up a lot of sh!t. Keep that for the track.

I voted h22 w/ 60 shot. Its your safest bet (not to mention the cheapest) and if you get your car tuned for a small shot of nitro, your losing no reliability whatsoever.
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i only read the first post but if your looking for an f22b motor for parts i have one currently for sale
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ok thanks every one for their comments! i have considered them all and greatly thought about each individual build.

i thought about itbs, and would only be an option for a weekend/track car

i currerntly am thinking about getting an h22A full swap w/ a lsd trans. then throw possibly a 60 shot, or turbo it a 7psi, then 2psi daily. then get a pair of stage one cams or go to bisi and get one of his cams either for turbo, or nos

if i were to keep the f series i would want a motor with the feeling of still haveing low miles (i dunno just that sense of security and reliability)

still looking into other options but still undecided =( an h22 NA is over played thats why i would like to boost it in the end!

i would love to here more options thoe thanks for all the comments thoe guys!
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Yea man, im thinking about it more and more but would like to start with an origonal motor with less than 50k miles on it.

how ever i do like seeing boosted singles i just dont think its practical on this motor =/

i think either route i go i will have to get a swap! thats why i was considering a boosted h22 with cams @ 6psi

im still debating but once my project does officoally get started i will have a nice little project thread
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

How is a single cam turbo not practical? lol you need to talk to Nick, he run a stock F22 turbo with dope as Whp/Wtq number for over a year without a problem. And when you cleanup/rebuild the F22 it won't have the 200k on it anymore, more or less.
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sorry man when i said practical i just met with the miles bro my bad.

and i have looked into others with built f22's and stock f22's some impressive and some what you imagine. but thanks for the input man ill look into this some more!
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f22 would be ze best choice
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

if you want to boost in the end wouldn't the f22 be the better block since it is cast iron, from what i understand about turbos and what not you can attain more boost out of it more safely from it than you could out of the aluminum block that an h22a has, i mentioned this before but i have an f22b motor for sale and it is a DOHC so you would have a little more options with that.
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thanks for the offer man how many miles and how much just for the block bc i actually changed my mind completly guys f22 bottom end h22 top therefore makein the g22 =) but trow me an offer bro
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Re: WHERE SHOULD I GO AT THIS POINT

The Jdm f22b motor has about 60,000 on it but if your gonna build it up it will be like starting fresh. How does $400 for the whole motor or $200 for just the block plus shipping and the 5 or 8 percent paypal fees sound.
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so how mcuh would shipping be to 23803?
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