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needing help finding direction for lude.

I just got my 2000 base lude last week. I need to come up with a plan for it. I am not so familiar with some of the things i can do, i have spent some time on here trying to figure it out, but there is so much info on here and it is sometimes buried under an even larger pile of "lolz" and "****s".

I want to up the motor a bit (budget $2000) i think i want to stay N/A
Suspension is decent but i want to tweak it, and i like the stock ride hieght (budget $500)
body is ok the way it is, i am going to paint those grey ss's though

Interior could use a little updating. it feels like it was designed in 96'. I dont know what others have done or what is possible, i want to diy fab it.

any ideas/suggestions would be really helpful
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Re: needing help finding direction for lude.

Okay, if you stay N/A, you wont gain any kinda of noticeable HP. You will just stay at stock HP with a lot of noise behind it. So its boost, or just save your money on suspension and wheels. And updating(so you say) on the interior.

Suspension on the ride height. Hmm, might want to keep your money on that as well, cus suspesion from factory is meant for the ride height. Unless you meant the ride quality. Then you can either go with H&R or Eibachs for the price that you listed, while keeping the stock shocks/struts. You will get a 1.2" drop and keep the ride quality pretty close to stock.

Do you have any pics of the ride??
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Okay, if you stay N/A, you wont gain any kinda of noticeable HP. You will just stay at stock HP with a lot of noise behind it.
You sir need to look at 98vtec. (waiting for Blake to find this.....)

Unless of course you are speaking of bolt-ons only, then you're pretty much right....


To OP. A $2000 budget is not enough to make a good N/A setup, unfortunately it happens to be the most expensive setup. I'm not saying you can't make decent gains, I'm just saying for a good N/A setup to rip its gonna cost some serious coin.

As for suspension, You may need to bump over $500 slightly if you are looking to improve your performance, if you can I would invest in a good set of coilovers. Most people like the KYB and ground controls setup( I dunno though, I'm still on stock lol, someone correct me of I'm wrong on that btw, I don't feel like searchin atm.)

Interior wise. I have no idea what you would want to do. Seems to me like it would be more of a pain than its worth...
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Re: needing help finding direction for lude.

For engine, I'd do the typical exhaust, intake, and header upgrade. Which should cost ya' around $1200 - $1500. Maybe even cheaper if you can find some good websites.

For suspension, if you're comfortable with the ride height and you're not looking to do some autocross or anything like that, then just leave it stock. I think our cars handle pretty nicely right out of the box. Maybe take the $500 + what's left over from the engine and put some nice shoes on her.

But for interior, I'm not sure. Not a whole lot you can do. Maybe a L.E.D. conversion for all the dash lights? Maybe look into some sparco seats or steering wheel. My recommendation though; Invest in a nice audio set up and make that **** bump!
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Re: needing help finding direction for lude.

thanks for the input so far.

I think i do want to do some coilovers with a st brace

engine wise i dont really agree with no gains from bolt-ons. arent a lot of people on here running I/H/E w/ tune and getting a decent bit? I am not looking for much on hp/tq a little bump would be good but i think i want to open up the top end of the motor a bit, help it breath a bit easier while keeping it close to stock.

i saw some dyno's of some compared intakes, and it looked like the short ram **** was the worst, then the v2, then stock w/ kn filter no resonator. how does everyone feel about this?

how about i do a header(which one?) put a k/n filter in, JUN cams, an s2000 tb with matching port and get rid of the muffler and bend some pipe from the stock resonator?
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Re: needing help finding direction for lude.

I/H/E is the place everyone starts. They are individual things people can do to make their cars sound better and give a tinnnny bit of actual power. The point of doing that is their gains are MUCH greater on a fully built n/a or turbo, on stock you're gains will be very small.

Most people only do IHE because they can't afford do throw $4-$10k at a well built, tuned engine so it is a great starting point if you want to do something now.

JUN cams are overpriced IMO, I'll probably catch some flack for that but w/e.

Header is a large debate. You can spend $100-200 and get something worse than stock or you can spend $300-500 and get negligibly better. Or you can get the bisimoto header for $800 and get like ~7HP gains on a stock engine. The consensus seems to be that either spend the right amount of money and get REAL gains or don't buy another header at all, or get a DC for bling factor only.
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You sir need to look at 98vtec. (waiting for Blake to find this.....)

Unless of course you are speaking of bolt-ons only, then you're pretty much right....
Yep, Bolt ons, since he only has $2k to put into the engine. Now if he was to use that other interior money, and suspension money for the Engine, then yes, he would get a better gain from stock.

To be honest, dont waste your money on NA. Its not worth it. Even tho your butt dyno might think differently
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Re: needing help finding direction for lude.

hmm.. 2k for the engine and 500 for suspension..
if were me
i'd go with I/H/E(pretty much whats in my sig), and maybe a piggyback tuner, depending on your plans are for the car.

and then i'd go with some like h&r or eibach springs. give ya a minimal drop, an inch or so, and make handling that much better.

could get the CF trim kit? or paint your trim pieces? new steering wheel? seats? i mean you could do anything just depends how much you wanna spend..
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hmm.. 2k for the engine and 500 for suspension..
if were me
i'd go with I/H/E(pretty much whats in my sig), and maybe a piggyback tuner, depending on your plans are for the car.

and then i'd go with some like h&r or eibach springs. give ya a minimal drop, an inch or so, and make handling that much better.

could get the CF trim kit? or paint your trim pieces? new steering wheel? seats? i mean you could do anything just depends how much you wanna spend..
the piggy back tuners are work on the ob#$ 2 ecu's yeah? how much worse are they than an old ecu that accepts the tune?

what did you get out of your setup? performance wise

i think im going to do some coilovers after i do the engine and some interior stuff.

i dont want to spend much on the inside other than fabric and materials to do it. i think the first thing inside i am going to do redo the headliner, the stock one is some kind of dark grey pleather doesnt quite match the rest of the inside
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the piggy back tuners are work on the ob#$ 2 ecu's yeah? how much worse are they than an old ecu that accepts the tune?

what did you get out of your setup? performance wise

i think im going to do some coilovers after i do the engine and some interior stuff.

i dont want to spend much on the inside other than fabric and materials to do it. i think the first thing inside i am going to do redo the headliner, the stock one is some kind of dark grey pleather doesnt quite match the rest of the inside
well switching to obd1 w/ a chipped&tuned ecu would the best way, but i would say that the piggy back system is better then nothing and if your wanting to stay obd2 then its pretty much your only choice(pretty sure atleast)

I actually havent dyno'ed mine yet, so i'm not sure as far as hp.. i was going to have it dyno'ed/tuned and then i had a rod knock come about.. so i'm actually in the process of doing a swap and a mild build right now..
but i would say that it is definitely faster now compared to stock even with the knock. I've raced a couple stock preludes from a stop and highway and i walk on them every time.

ya if you like a firmer ride, and the ability to change your ride height when ever you want.. then ya i'd say coilovers are the way to go.
but if you dont care about being able to adjust then just go with like the h&r or eibach race springs. a good 2.5(if i remember right) drop and a little smoother ride. personally i love my ground control coilovers, even with the stock shocks.

what are you gonna cover it with? i know i've seen a couple people do a CF headliner before, looks pretty good i think
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