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N/A Performance Upgrades

I'd like to start looking for performance upgrades and would like to be pointed in the right direction. I apologize if this is a repost, or too general, but I didn't find the answer to the questions I have using the search.

Just general, I would like to stay N/A. What would get me noticable horsepower gains within reasonable price range. (no $2000 upgrades)

1. I've been looking at the Megan stainless steel headers, any comments on headers in general? And would the different header make my exhaust sound different? I don't want raspy, loud, riced sh*t.

2. And I've heard exhaust's just give you a nice sound. Is that true? 1-2 hp gains are not satisfactory for me.

3. What about engine upgrades? I have an AEM intake that the previous owner installed, would it be worth it to get the v2 and swap it out?

4. I just want a little more oomph under the hood for a reasonable price. I heard chips are garbage, anybody know anything about that?
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Re: N/A Performance Upgrades

As long as the intake is a cold air and not a short ram its fine.

exhaust can give you good gains, best bet is getting a good custom mandrel bent 3 inch system. unless you dont plan to get cams in which case 2.5 will be just fine.

just make sure you use a resonator thats the same style as vibrant performance ultra quiet model. no resonator and or small bottle ones will make the car sound like raspy farts.

not sure about the megan header, for any header to get gains it must have bigger diameter pipes.

tho i think the megan (might of been vibrant) was a replica of the mugen header. if im wrong feel free to correct me.

could do a euro R intake manifold

cams are always a good option if you already have header and exhaust but for cams you need a new valve train.

I just replaced the valves in my car with a set from brian crower. and seals from supertech. that alone was 576 shipped having a machine shop install them was 220+another 100 because i got over sized valves. that doesnt include labor to remove the head.

depending on your technical skill type s pistons are another upgrade id consider.

but if you would have to have a shop do that and or the valves its gonna be expensive. if you get both done at the same (smart way to do it) time its gonna be at least 2000 dolllars for parts and labor.

the h22 it seams most small upgrades here and there dont make huge difference by them selves but once its done you will see where the money went.


if you get the stuff little by little it wont be over 2k at once but in the end it all adds up.

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Re: N/A Performance Upgrades

IMO if you're simply looking for a little more "oomph" I would do I/H/E( GOOD I/H/E, no cheapo stuff...) and then get a tune. That should get you goin in the direction you want. But if you're lookin to start a real N/A build check this out, I think it'll help you out bunches: H22 Build-Up Information
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I'd like to start looking for performance upgrades and would like to be pointed in the right direction. I apologize if this is a repost, or too general, but I didn't find the answer to the questions I have using the search.

Just general, I would like to stay N/A. What would get me noticable horsepower gains within reasonable price range. (no $2000 upgrades)

1. I've been looking at the Megan stainless steel headers, any comments on headers in general? And would the different header make my exhaust sound different? I don't want raspy, loud, riced sh*t.

2. And I've heard exhaust's just give you a nice sound. Is that true? 1-2 hp gains are not satisfactory for me.

3. What about engine upgrades? I have an AEM intake that the previous owner installed, would it be worth it to get the v2 and swap it out?

4. I just want a little more oomph under the hood for a reasonable price. I heard chips are garbage, anybody know anything about that?
1. There are COUNTLESS threads on headers and that particular one.

2. For the most part, yes. You also wouldn't even get that much from a Megan header.

3. Keep what you have.

4. You gotta pay to play. Intakes and **** aren't going to get you the power you want, if any at all. You're going to need to spend a grand or more.
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I'd like to start looking for performance upgrades and would like to be pointed in the right direction. I apologize if this is a repost, or too general, but I didn't find the answer to the questions I have using the search.

Just general, I would like to stay N/A. What would get me noticable horsepower gains within reasonable price range. (no $2000 upgrades)

1. I've been looking at the Megan stainless steel headers, any comments on headers in general? And would the different header make my exhaust sound different? I don't want raspy, loud, riced sh*t.

2. And I've heard exhaust's just give you a nice sound. Is that true? 1-2 hp gains are not satisfactory for me.

3. What about engine upgrades? I have an AEM intake that the previous owner installed, would it be worth it to get the v2 and swap it out?

4. I just want a little more oomph under the hood for a reasonable price. I heard chips are garbage, anybody know anything about that?

Your stock header is better then most after markets so if you want it to look better heat wrap it and move on.

An exhaust only funtions well baised on your Intake, Intake Manifold, Head, exhaust manifold, and Cat/Test pipe. That more air you take in the more that needs to get out. Also though letting to much out when your car is not getting enough in to support it can set your car back and slow it down.

You are not going to see a lot of gains just baised off of throwing an intake and exhaust on it.

You have to pay to play especially in N/A land.

Here is what I will suggest to get you started.

1. Basically all intakes have the same purpose and one really isn't much better then the other so keep yours get the v2 or w/e one you like best.

2. Look into the Euro R intake manifold.

3. Hytech header or replica is about the only way to go when it comes to the h22. Bisimoto is apparently working on one and when he finishes it I'm sure everyone here will know about it. He made a header for the f22a engine and on a basically stock engine is showed a 27whp gain... that is almost unheard of in a 4cyl.

3. Exhaust, for an n/a build you wont need much more than 2.5" pipe. You can look into w/e aftermarket exhaust you like or have one custom made for your car at basically any muffler shop. I would get a high flow cat to avoid being to loud or raspy.

4. Removing power steering and air conditioning along with adding a light weight crank pully or harmonic balancer will help a lot with removing weight off of the crank. and is the biggest bang for your buck.

5. Head work, porting and polishing, lighter valves, springs, and retainers, beefier cams, good timing advance and a lot more do research.

6. Tuning

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Re: N/A Performance Upgrades

i think a nice n/a setup would be

.euro r im
.s2k tb
.type s intake
.smsp header
.mugen cat back

of course this all cost money. the header is about $1000+ but if i was you i would save up the money to get what you really want. dont rush and buy parts.
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Re: N/A Performance Upgrades

maybe I just just save up and trade in for an s2k... that looks like its my best bet. I'm not exactly DIY oriented, but I could probably do I/H/E. I don't know about intake manifold and parts that cost over a grand a piece. F**k that.
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maybe I just just save up and trade in for an s2k... that looks like its my best bet. I'm not exactly DIY oriented, but I could probably do I/H/E. I don't know about intake manifold and parts that cost over a grand a piece. F**k that.
Lol, good luck if you get an s2k

everything worth a **** for it is well over 1k
even the junk parts that will actually make the car lose power cost over 1k
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gonna hafta pay to play son. if making a noticeable amount of power was that easy/cheap, everyone and their mom would be doing it
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haha, as if an s2k would be any cheaper...
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gonna hafta pay to play son. if making a noticeable amount of power was that easy/cheap, everyone and their mom would be doing it
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haha, as if an s2k would be any cheaper...
like I said, "maybe I'll just SAVE UP and trade in for an s2k"

Its not like I don't have the dough, I just don't want to have to spend it on 1000 dollar parts that don't show hp gains good enough to get them. Besides, have an automatic, my bubble burst along time ago. haha


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Lol, good luck if you get an s2k
thanks, there's an AP2 at my local honda dealership not even 3 miles from my house that calls my name when I drive past it everyday. yeah yeah I know I'm a traitor.
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hahahaha you shoulda mentioned the automatic in the first post.

the 5 speed swap is without a doubt where your gonna see the most gains; i think its been dyno-proven for +35/40whp.
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hahahaha you shoulda mentioned the automatic in the first post.

the 5 speed swap is without a doubt where your gonna see the most gains; i think its been dyno-proven for +35/40whp.
One guy saw over 50 hp with that swap.
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manual lude vs (waiting + s2k)

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thanks, there's an AP2 at my local honda dealership not even 3 miles from my house that calls my name when I drive past it everyday. yeah yeah I know I'm a traitor.

Why would I of all people call you a traitor?
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So you've decided to wait?
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yeah... probably

my lude is nice, but when my little brother gets his license I might give him my prelude as long as he takes care of it. Then I'll be up for a new ride.

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As long as the intake is a cold air and not a short ram its fine.
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it makes the same power as stock.
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