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Old 09-19-2009, 08:44 PM
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Having Some Trouble Shifting.

Okayy.. I posted once before about this problem but I've been away working and learned a little bit more about transmissions. So here is goes..

My 1999 Prelude has 260,000 Kilometers (160,000 Miles) on the transmission. There is no noise coming from the transmission, no whines or grinding. I had an appointment to have the gearbox oil changed but the mechanic said he didn't do it because when he took it for a drive (which I don't really know why he drove it) he said he didn't find anything wrong, but I think he just didn't bother with it. I have no idea what maintenance was done to the car before I got it, therefore I don't know if the transmission was ever tampered with.

Its not a syncro problem, or a clutch I don't think. When I'm not moving the car shifts prefect but when I'm accelerating from gear to gear the car sometimes kicks out of gear as soon as I clutch and pull a bit. But the real problem is when I'm trying to get into gear.. ITS A BITCH.. it doesn't go into gear easy at all, I'm afraid to pull to hard and really **** something up. I got some gearbox oil straight and just need a day here to do a good service (belts and all).

Really I guess I'm asking for some info from someone who knows a bit more about trannys then me. Could it be cables? Gearbox oil? I'm really stumped here and wouldn't mind getting the problem on my first go at it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Re: Having Some Trouble Shifting.

i have the same problem. not as severe though. its hard for me to go from 3rd to 4th at high rpms. i'm thinking its a syncro problem. i'm really hoping it's not. it can also be driver error. you just gotta shift slower. if i drive badly then my tranny gets messed up and its hard to shift and sometimes won't go into reverse. but if i just drive it normally for awhile the tranny returns to how it was before. but if i drive it right (taking it easy on the tranny even at high rpms) i don't get "sticky" gears afterwards
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i have the same problem. not as severe though. its hard for me to go from 3rd to 4th at high rpms. i'm thinking its a syncro problem. i'm really hoping it's not. it can also be driver error. you just gotta shift slower. if i drive badly then my tranny gets messed up and its hard to shift and sometimes won't go into reverse. but if i just drive it normally for awhile the tranny returns to how it was before. but if i drive it right (taking it easy on the tranny even at high rpms) i don't get "sticky" gears afterwards

Mines hard to get into gear regardless. I've been playing with it for a bit today and it feels sorta like there is a sweet spot somewhere between gears. When I'm really ripping on it, like for example, going to 7,000 rpm in 2nd, tention on the stick, ease off the throttle, pops out of gear as you jump on the clutch, then hold it on 3rd but not in the gears and when it hits like 5,800 it slides into gear as easy as it should be.

I'm not holding it into the syncro but if I really pull or push it into gear you can here is zip on the syncro before going into gear.

The problem seems like it gets less severe if I'm take a drive down the highway for a bit and then booker back up the highway. Then for about 2 dozen shifts it works fine. So I'm thinking that driving on the highway works around the gear oil and is doing something to help?
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Re: Having Some Trouble Shifting.

Another thing I noticed last night. I was at the gas station getting some gas and a Civic pulled up to the pump beside me, he finish the same time I did and we went and paid. he pull out in front of me and took off so I followed, it was raining and when I put the pedal down the Vtec kicked in and I lost traction all trough 1st but stayed on him, shifted into second with ease and kept the tires spinning, tires fetched up as i shifted into 3rd with ease and pulled past him and the same with 4th and 5th gears.

Would the cool air therefore cool tranny be and indicator of something?

The car works awesome when it wants to but.. I want it to work good all the time.
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Re: Having Some Trouble Shifting.

looks like you're having the same problem as i am. just a little more severe than mine. i changed my tranny fluid and it didn't help. i'm really thinking its the syncros. just drive it carefully. i think its the driving style. oh and if you haven't yet i suggest you buy a short shifter. I have a PSEPC ss for 5th gens and it helped A LOT with the shifting problem. shifting feels sturdier, if that makes sense. i think its like $200 for it. well worth the buy.
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looks like you're having the same problem as i am. just a little more severe than mine. i changed my tranny fluid and it didn't help. i'm really thinking its the syncros. just drive it carefully. i think its the driving style. oh and if you haven't yet i suggest you buy a short shifter. I have a PSEPC ss for 5th gens and it helped A LOT with the shifting problem. shifting feels sturdier, if that makes sense. i think its like $200 for it. well worth the buy.
Thinking of getting a short shift kit sometime anyway but as for my problem I'm starting to take into consideration that the guy that had the car before me warped the clutch. Been talking to a few tranny experts and there sorta leaning towards a warped or crumbled clutch. The guy that had it before me could of rode the clutch and damaged it due to heat.
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