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Old 08-14-2009, 04:02 AM
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Turbos Vs Supercharger

i need some engine work in my fourth gen. and i am tossing a few ideas around.

i've looked into dropping the euro spec h22 into the car and leaving it at that for a while before building it up, but im concerned about the tranny issue. would i need to get the trans for the h22? i currently have a h23 and i don't know if it would affect any power or take off times or anything

i've also considered just rebuilding my h23 and making it bullet proof and then either running a turbo or supercharger to it. i was leaning towards turbo b/c i love the blow off but i dont want to have to do alot of work and have a huge intercooler, b.c i hate that look (plus i dont have a bodykit)

also i think it would be cool to have the supercharger b/c most people wouldnt recognize the sound and wouldn't assume im pushing any real power, therefore i would kinda have the sleeper effect.

any comments, ideas advice is greatly appreciated
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

you dont need a h22 tranny for the h22. you could use the h23. it won't effect all that much. you might be a little slower. i'm using an h23 tranny on my 5spd swap for my h22. the only problem you might run into is falling out of vtec when you shift to 2nd. but other then that... the best way to fix that is to lower vtec engagement a little.. roughly 500rpms.. and of course tune it for that.

you don't NEED a body kit for an intercooler. h23 turbo'd would probably be your best bet.

there are no supercharger kits for the h23 4th gen. nor the h22 4th gen either. just the 5th gen. you could get the 5th gen one but it requires some modification.. not sure what that is but you could search around, i'm sure its covered on this site somewhere.
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

i know i dont need a body kit for the intercooler but if i ran a turbo i wouldnt be happy with the look of my car if you could see the intercooler

and if their are no superchargers for fourth gens, and i'll probably get yelled at for asking this, will a 5th gen motor fit into the fourth gens?
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

you realize you answered your own question...
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i've looked into dropping the euro spec h22 into the car
h22 is a 5th gen motor. but even with a 5th gen motor the supercharger still won't fit properly.

and you can easily block out the intercooler with some black mesh screen or something. might as well keep the stock bumper as it will help conceal it a little.
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

h22a1 was a 4th gen model
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

if you don't want alotta work, neither turbo nor SC is for you than.
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

My 5th Gen has the JDM H22A1 dropped in using stock tranny. I am leaning towards super over turbo, but that is entirely personal preference (you can read on any forums/websites debating that). There is no denying the awesome sound of turbo but they are both an immense amount of work and if this is your daily driver I wouldn't recommend either IMO.

Here are some pro's and cons of what you could do: If you get an H22A1 you can drop it right in (with slight modifications of course) and gain 20Hpish over the USDM H23 and then go from there but with the JDM engine parts might be harder to find, I haven't had any trouble finding anything but I do have a realllly weird starter but that is another thread.

By buying one of those engines off of ebay with 35-55k on it you get a good deal but you are running more of a risk. By building your own you at least know what you have and are getting yourself into. You could buy one already built but that is a redonkulous amount of $ IMO.

If I were you I would just stroke and build your h23 and leave it n/a if its a dd so you have a powerful all engine build that is reliable. If its a toy build your h23 and turbo. But again that would be what I would do.

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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

I have a 94 JDM H22a in my DD 5th gen running on the 00 ECU. Im assuming Jackson Racing was what you were going for. Their supercharger was only made to run on 97-01 models. Install really wasnt that difficult, and all I need is a tune. I'm not sure how clearances would work out with the motor in a 4th gen engine bay. If you are in the 757 area, I know a guy that has one used for sale. Last he said was 1400. If you want a new one, it is owned by Moss Motors. I have spoken with the JRSC tech w/in the past month and they have 10 kits left on their shelf. Once those 10 kits are gone, no more will be made. Also if you are in the 757 and need help installing the JRSC, I would love to help. Good luck man, hope I helped out.
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Re: Turbos Vs Supercharger

i read somewhere about someone with a deadstock h23 running a toyota mr2 sc on it and gained a decent amount of power it was interesting to me....ill try to find the website again
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i read somewhere about someone with a deadstock h23 running a toyota mr2 sc on it and gained a decent amount of power it was interesting to me....ill try to find the website again
http://preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303997
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