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sts turbo system

hi
maybe this should be in the fi section sorry.
i kno somebody mentioned the sts turbo system in a thread before and everybody shot him down. ive been looking at the sts website and i gotta say its pretty impressive. people on here said installation would be a nightmare in a previous thread but to me it doesnt seem like much more arse ache than a regular turbo set up. has anyone got pictures of the underside of a prelude to see where this would go?
as for price wise it doesnt seem to much more expensive.
the rarity and sound appeals to me most and that u could keep power steering and air con.
so wat am i missing, they sound like a great bit of kit so why has no one done it on their prelude yet?
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Re: sts turbo system

i usually see sts turbos in corvettes and cars with no room in engine bay.
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Re: sts turbo system

yeah i noticed that while looking, but i really want one in my prelude now, almost convinced myself that this is the turbo kit i will buy once saved a bit of cash first.
i'm assuming no body has done it on a prelude then? how bout any honda? if not then its nice to know how rare the installation would be too.
come on people someone must have a picture of the underside of their car....
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listen anything can be done with money yada yada yada


why? we have TONSSSS of room in our engine bay whether you believe it or not.

there are countless numbers of ludes running boost that aren't on sts.

you can keep air condition and power steering...do research please..

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Re: sts turbo system

hang about there mate, why close this thread? as far as im aware there is only one other thread on this site about the sts, i could be wrong but i didnt see any others when i 'researched'.
why not encourage people to something a bit different rather than getting all ****ty, after all its just another way in doing something that may appeal to different tastes. i thought the idea of a forum was to throw ideas out there and see what people think and if they see draw back or plus sides that you may not of thought of and generally gather more knowledge about things that maybe u arent as up on as somebody else but share the same enthusiasm.
after all if we didnt wanna be a little different then why would we mod our cars at all.
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Re: sts turbo system

im saying close this thread because there already IS an info thread on the STS system.

why not ask your questions in there?

im not getting all ****ty and im not the BEST turbo expert out there, but what im trying to state is, why are you going to go through all the trouble fabricating an sts system that after all said and done is double the amount you would have spent on just a regular turbo system sitting in your engine bay?

and yes a forum is to throw ideas out there but if you have a question about sts turbos and there already IS a thread for sts turbo systems, and you already knew there was a thread...common knowledge would be posting in there then instead of making your own.

im not trying to be a prick, but in a forum your going to get negative and positive comments.

so here is mine..why would you go sts? do you not have enough room in your engine bay?

if you want to look into keeping you power steering here ya go

So, you wanna go turbo, huh?

one of our best turbo threads there.

when i stated research btw i wasn't saying others with STS turbo..i meant others boosted that have A/C and Power Steering.

Good luck with whatever build you go with.
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Re: sts turbo system

ok i see what u are saying, maybe i should have posted in the other thread but just thought its a old thread and didnt fancy hi jacking someone elses thats all, im new to this forum so now i know.
back on topic, i know our engine bay isnt to restricted in space wise so yes it doesnt NEED a remote mounted turbo, however the sts turbos seem to sound very special and the website seems very impressive to in figures and stuff, also i do like the thought of having something a little different, and i do like a challenge.
yes i know there are cheaper options out there and it would make more sense to go for them really but i never usually do the simple easy option so why start now.
one thing is for sure, if i do go sts turbo i will do a full comprehensive pictured write up which im sure would make a interesting read.
oh and that thread u referred me to is just a awsome thread and truely thumbs up to the top bloke who took the time to write that, im sure its helped many people, and i'll finish reading it soon (its alot of info!)
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Re: sts turbo system

thinking outside the box.... i like that


def let us know what route you end up taking!!
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thinking outside the box.... i like that


def let us know what route you end up taking!!
Definitely True Dat Nick.

STS turbos systems are meant for big breathing v8 blocks. There is crazy lag on the system, since the exhaust goes all the way to the muffler where the turbine is (corvette) then back to the intake manifold. The only positive is no need for an intercooler under mild applications.

HUGE MINUS: someone can jack your entire turbo system by raising your car and unscrewing hose clamps. besides, you'd have to worry about pot holes, road debris, speed bumps, curbs (if you should ever wind up hopping one)

just some references from LS1GTO.com

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...=sts+turbo+kit

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...=sts+turbo+kit

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...=sts+turbo+kit

you can physically see how it works one way and the mods done to a system
typically seen as "flawed" from the get go. Trust your prelude boosters when they say leave it under the hood.
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Re: sts turbo system

thanks for the info, but im still not completly writing the idea off... just yet, seems like in those threads the sts system isnt a bad thing its just a matter of installing the kit properly.
to install on a prelude its gonna be mostly custom work anyway.
i've read many pieces of info of people who have installed these on there cars (all be it a big breathing v8) and there has been very minimal lag, i do realise we dont have big breathing v8 engines in the old trusty preludes so i am unsure of the lag issues.
thing that keeps tempting me is the sound the kit makes, and the rarity of this kit being used on a prelude (altho there may be a good reason for that....)
sound wise, is it making that sound because there is no muffler so u hear the turbo spooling un muffled, if so surely a convetional turbo set up with no muffler will sound similar right?
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Re: sts turbo system

be honest, do you mostly wanna do it for the sound? cuz if so.....


and its starting to sound like the cons are farr outweighing the pros right now. IMHO
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Re: sts turbo system

A friend of mine that is a lead mechanic for a Top Fuel dragster was telling me a little bit about that type of turbo application. He was saying that the turbo lag wasn't any more significant than if you were running a standard setup and that there were some benefits to remotely mounting the turbo. The turbo itself generally runs much cooler since the exhaust gasses aren't coming straight from the manifold.

He was mainly looking at the setup for his 1970 Porsche 911 that he converting to have a small block chevy so he could get the heat from the turbo out of the engine bay.
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A friend of mine that is a lead mechanic for a Top Fuel dragster was telling me a little bit about that type of turbo application. He was saying that the turbo lag wasn't any more significant than if you were running a standard setup and that there were some benefits to remotely mounting the turbo. The turbo itself generally runs much cooler since the exhaust gasses aren't coming straight from the manifold.

He was mainly looking at the setup for his 1970 Porsche 911 that he converting to have a small block chevy so he could get the heat from the turbo out of the engine bay.
Not to nit-pick, but isn't 911's rear engine mounted? Is his mechanic friend goint to mount the turbo somewhere in the front of the car? Or is he going to relocate the engine to the front?

The STS kit isn't bad, it's Elite-ist. You have to have a garage, and drive it only on sunny, rain free days (the air intake filter lives on the turbo, under your car), and if you vary from the kit's formula,(bigger turbo) you're gonna pop the stock piping/ turbo itself.

The heat in the engine bay? well turbos will always have heat soak. You can get your manifolds jet hot coated:

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=white+light...%3Fpid%3D10969

also visit these guys if you want some great ceramic paint for your intercooler. it's black so it looks stock. and run a remote oil cooler kit, you'll have more oil to boot!

I wanted a turbo once, but it does come to be too much to maintain when you don't know what you're doing.
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Re: sts turbo system

It was made for F-bodies (Camaro's and Trans Ams) originally so that they could more easily mount up a turbo system without tons of custom work, because there is NO ROOM in the engine bays of those cars...(i have one)

in that application they work well because of the F-bodies exhaust system being a 2 into 1, back into 2 ....but it wouldnt be worth it on a Prelude... it JUST MAKES NO SENSE MAN
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Not to nit-pick, but isn't 911's rear engine mounted? Is his mechanic friend goint to mount the turbo somewhere in the front of the car?
Actually that was exactly his plan, running the exhaust towards the front and putting the turbo up there and then have the exhaust exit just infront of the rear wheels. He ended up deciding that the car had enough power without a turbo, its running 430ft lbs of torque at 3200 rpm currently... There's some pics of it in the auto showoff section.
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lmfao, there is NO such thing as "enough power"
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lmfao, there is NO such thing as "enough power"
I don't know about that... something about being in a 2500lbs road going car that will lift the front wheels off the ground would be slightly on the unpractical side for a DD lol.
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the A-Spec Japan done that with ease but my concern is:
1- RUST.
2-Cleaning the air filter???
3-Oil lubrication for the turbine unit...

But they achieved HUGE numbers on there cars :D
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