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Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

I just bought a '97 Prelude for my son. This was a 1 owner car and has 150,000 miles on it...Clean title...solid Carfax. The outside is in very good shape w/minor wear and very minor wear on the inside so this part of the car was well-taken care of. Purchased this car at a Honda dealership so I assume they figured it was in good enough shape to put out on their used lot. They replaced some hoses...oil change...a couple of valves...supposedly did their "thorough inspection"...fluids, leaks, all that sort of thing. Would it be a good idea to go ahead and have the timing belt and water pump replaced now? If the previous owner did his scheduled maintenance, the timing belt has another 2 years. I'm not a mechanical guy and just kind of need some opinions on what sort of things I should have done on this vehicle based on the mileage and the age. I hope that since this has been a 1 owner vehicle and visually, the exterior,interior and engine all appear in good shape, that this car was well-cared for. Thanks!
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you never know what your really getting looks can be deceiving,is the car auto or stick???go with a whole tune-up...NGK plugs and wires,New p/s belt,New Timing belt,Flush the radiator,(if stick that oem clutch might be "going" usually lasts up to 100,xxx)Top off with all new fluids,sythentic oil,(if auto check for signs of slipping tranny) i guess replacing the w/p wont hurt either
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Would it be a good idea to go ahead and have the timing belt and water pump replaced now? If the previous owner did his scheduled maintenance, the timing belt has another 2 years.
You should go back to the dealership and try to find out if the timing belt has been done. If not, then it should be done right away, because 150k miles is too much. And like Rojo said, the clutch would be what I would check next. You should definitely be able to tell if it's the original clutch. 135k miles is when mine really started to go.
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yea bro my OEM clutch ****ted itself at 102,xxx now i dont worry, homie got the Exedy stage2, 6 puck plate with lighten oem flywheel :
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Re: Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

I am in the process of trying to find out from the dealer who the previous owner was so that I can contact him. It is an automatic...what would be the symptoms of a slipping transmission? Thanks!
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Re: Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

All fluids should be done regardless.

Bleed brakes, check hoses, flush coolant.

check if timing belt was done at 100k. Check if plugs are new, just pop one out and see if they're iridiums or something to that effect.

if not, new plugs, new timing belt, and check if the serpentine belt is good too.

Also make sure water pump was done at 100k as well.

automatic, they usually don't slip, so much as they start refusing to shift and shifting hard, or at the wrong times.

Older Honda auto transmissions are not up to par, so be sure to feel it out.
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In regard to the transmission, the only thing I've noticed is that when I take off from a stop, there is a little bit of a "jump" sort of movement...kind of a little hitch..nothing major...don't know how else to explain it. Nothing noticeable at any other time, just right there at the beginning from a dead stop.
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In regard to the transmission, the only thing I've noticed is that when I take off from a stop, there is a little bit of a "jump" sort of movement...kind of a little hitch..nothing major...don't know how else to explain it. Nothing noticeable at any other time, just right there at the beginning from a dead stop.
I have the same issue and that usually is a result of the AUTO tranny slgihtly slipping. So to prevent it from getting any worse. Jus go easy on it and dont push the tranny too hard or use the SS (Sports Shifting) too often as that will cause the tranny to crap out on you a lot sooner!!!
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I have the same issue and that usually is a result of the AUTO tranny slgihtly slipping. So to prevent it from getting any worse. Jus go easy on it and dont push the tranny too hard or use the SS (Sports Shifting) too often as that will cause the tranny to crap out on you a lot sooner!!!
"go easy on it" the car is for his son, proabley his first car too. you know he'll beat on it like no tommorrow think of your first car?? lol
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Re: Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

Had a long talk w/ my son...told him he can't drive a car that has 150K on it hard...Yeah, right. But if it is a slipping tranny, what kind of $$$ would you be thinking in terms of repair?
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you can prevent a slipping tranny, by inspecting any leaks, reseal em, a tranny is an expensive thing to replace, a rebuild tranny easily 1500-2200 its youur decision ill send you a pm about inspecting the trannny
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if you want to know what to look out for or what needs to be done in the case of autos going bad ( which in 97 &98 they do quite a bit from what im told....idk i have a 00 standard sooo...)

check this out 5th Gen Auto Transmission Failure Guide
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Re: Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

97Rojo - I appreciate your time. No leaks of any sort and I don't hear any sounds that would indicate a problem. My son got home a few minutes ago and we took out again and drove. Really felt nothing this time around...everything seemed to work/sound smooth so maybe I'm just over-analyzing. He said he feels the 'tug' only after the car has been sitting for a while (morning and after school). The tranny fluid looks good (I trust it was also checked by the Honda dealer)..I'll check to see if it has a burnt smell later today. The car seems to run very well...it starts very quickly...air blows cold...pulls slightly to the right on the highway, but no big deal...brakes well...no grinds, whines or anything else. I don't know...I'm still waiting for the dealer to give me contact info of the previous owner.
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Re: Just bought '97 w/ 150,000. What should I do?

The dealership has to first call the customer who traded in the car and ask permission to give you their info, and the car may have been purchased at an auction, i see that a lot at my dealership.
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97Rojo - I appreciate your time. No leaks of any sort and I don't hear any sounds that would indicate a problem. My son got home a few minutes ago and we took out again and drove. Really felt nothing this time around...everything seemed to work/sound smooth so maybe I'm just over-analyzing. He said he feels the 'tug' only after the car has been sitting for a while (morning and after school). The tranny fluid looks good (I trust it was also checked by the Honda dealer)..I'll check to see if it has a burnt smell later today. The car seems to run very well...it starts very quickly...air blows cold...pulls slightly to the right on the highway, but no big deal...brakes well...no grinds, whines or anything else. I don't know...I'm still waiting for the dealer to give me contact info of the previous owner.
No problem im always willing to help, proabley just feels that "tug" beacause of a cold engine, but good luck to you and your son and your prelude, just pray that its not the tranny..find that info asap from prior owner
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Honda dealership contacted previous owner. He is an engineer and the car was his daughter's...he traded it in because she is now overseas. Changed the timing belt between 100-110K which is right in line w/ the maintenance schedule. Appeared to be a meticulous type owner. I feel much better...no need to worry about the timing belt for at least a couple more years. Will probably still have the tranny evaluated but I'm pretty certain the scheduled maintenace was done so it should be in good shape and should last a long time. Paid $4900 for the car including oil changes for as long as I own it. Appears I got a pretty good deal for a car that seems to be in very good shape.
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Had a Honda service guy take the car out for a drive. He felt the "hitch" during the shift and when he punched the accelerator and got it above 5000 rpm, (I know that's when the Vtech is supposed to kick in), it acted strange and he said it shouldn't do that. I asked him if he thought it was a problem and he said yes...the Honda dealership quoted $3700 for a rebuilt 3/36 warranty Honda transmission. Bull. I'm going to take it to a transmission shop tomorrow and see what they say. Crap.
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Transmission is being rebuilt w/ OEM parts. Axles were also going out and an engine mount was bad. Mechanic showed me the defective parts. I'm pissed. I hate buying cars. I figure this won't be the last thing I'll have to do to this car, but the tranny, axles, engine mount are going to total nearly 3K. I'm sure this work is over-priced, but I'm having it done at a transmission specialty shop and not some joker chain place. I would do it now if I could but I can't afford to have the timing belt changed at this time, I'm only hoping that the previous owner did it at 100K like the schedule recommends. If not, I could be screwed big-time if that thing goes. I need to probably get the coolant, p/s, and brake fluids changed as well as new plugs and wires.
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Had a Honda service guy take the car out for a drive. He felt the "hitch" during the shift and when he punched the accelerator and got it above 5000 rpm, (I know that's when the Vtech is supposed to kick in), it acted strange and he said it shouldn't do that. I asked him if he thought it was a problem and he said yes...the Honda dealership quoted $3700 for a rebuilt 3/36 warranty Honda transmission. Bull. I'm going to take it to a transmission shop tomorrow and see what they say. Crap.
that Vtec solenoid is proabley burnt out replace that first and see from there moving on to tranny!! but good luck with the rebuild man
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