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amp not gettin power after battery relocation

ok well i just relocated my battery in my 92 si and now wen i try rewiring my amp it wont get power anyone kno why this might be happening?
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ok well i just relocated my battery in my 92 si and now wen i try rewiring my amp it wont get power anyone kno why this might be happening?
Sounds really weird try to Cut the tips of the wire off to have fresh new wires. Also maybe the wire needs to be long to transfer all the power to the amp. (maybe the wire is to short from battery to amp) *also maybe try to keep the wire the same length just all twirled up.

Thats just my tips and what i would do it i were have that problem.

ALSO make sure your ground is still good.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

ok well ill give that a try hopefully tomorrow if not ill do it tuesday thanks for the suggestion
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

x2 on the ground. i had the same problem.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

If it's not the ground, check all the simple things like fuses. It's always something simple like that.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

ok will do wen its light out lol
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

pshhh eff that. its gorrrgeeeoussss (long island accent) outside right now

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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

also wat fuses would i check? besides the inline one from the battery to the amp which is a brand new set
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x2 on the ground. i had the same problem.
Same here. Try that first thing.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

Have you used a volt meter or even a test light? How do you know where the problem is? What is the last link in the power "Chain" that has power? How much Power? 10 Volts? 12 Volts? 14 Volts? Do any lights on the amplifier come on at all? Does it have a fan? Can you hear or see it running? Have you hooked your amplifier( temporarily) directly to the battery?

What size of wire did you use when you relocatted the battery? did you relocate it to the trunk? What are you using for a ground in the trunk for the battery? for the Amplifier?
Does your starter sound like it is having trouble turning over the car?

when you are asking a forum to help you troubleshoot, you need lots and lots of details in order for any one to help you.
My best advice is to start at the amplifier with a meter set to 20V DC and work your way back to the battery. Do this for both the + and the - side of the amplifier. You will eventually find the issue as you work backwards through any fuses, dist blocks, splices, conectors, etc.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

Usually if it's not getting power it's not a battery problem , it's the ground. Make sure you have a good ground by sanding down if you have to get paint off cause that will obstruct the voltage... Hope all goes well!
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Have you used a volt meter or even a test light? How do you know where the problem is? What is the last link in the power "Chain" that has power? How much Power? 10 Volts? 12 Volts? 14 Volts? Do any lights on the amplifier come on at all? Does it have a fan? Can you hear or see it running? Have you hooked your amplifier( temporarily) directly to the battery?

What size of wire did you use when you relocatted the battery? did you relocate it to the trunk? What are you using for a ground in the trunk for the battery? for the Amplifier?
Does your starter sound like it is having trouble turning over the car?

when you are asking a forum to help you troubleshoot, you need lots and lots of details in order for any one to help you.
My best advice is to start at the amplifier with a meter set to 20V DC and work your way back to the battery. Do this for both the + and the - side of the amplifier. You will eventually find the issue as you work backwards through any fuses, dist blocks, splices, conectors, etc.

ok i relocated the battery to the trunk i have the battery wired with i believe is either a 2 or 0 gauge i have it grounded to the chassis by where the jack is located the amp was working perfectly literally 30 seconds before i took the battery out i had the amp grounded to the piece where the bottom and top pieceof the rear seat meets and it was grounded there before and it never gave me any problems always worked like a charm the only fuse i can think of to check is the inline fuse in the wiring for the amp and the amp fuses and all of which are perfectly fine
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Usually if it's not getting power it's not a battery problem , it's the ground. Make sure you have a good ground by sanding down if you have to get paint off cause that will obstruct the voltage... Hope all goes well!




there has not been enough detaal provided to make such an assumption. I know you said "usually" but I am remiss to agree with you until the OP provides more information, pictures, steps taken, etc.

How many people here know to disconnect the negative cable before changing ANY electrical accessory on a vehicle? And How many times have you seen a fuse literally POP because of hooking up the positive cable with a live ground?
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

i can have pics up by like 4ish because im at class waitin to leave this damn place ill put pics of the current ground set up and all the wiring and all that fun stuff
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ok i relocated the battery to the trunk i have the battery wired with i believe is either a 2 or 0 gauge i have it grounded to the chassis by where the jack is located the amp was working perfectly literally 30 seconds before i took the battery out i had the amp grounded to the piece where the bottom and top pieceof the rear seat meets and it was grounded there before and it never gave me any problems always worked like a charm the only fuse i can think of to check is the inline fuse in the wiring for the amp and the amp fuses and all of which are perfectly fine

you are certainly on the right path here....

a cheap analog multi meter ($10 at radio shack) would be your best friend right now. Or at least a 12V test light.

to start a logical troubleshooting proces, don't focus on what happened before you changed things.

Instead.... start at the amplifier with one of the two tools mentioned above. Ground one side to the batteries negative post, and with the positive probe side, start by touching the 12V + lead at the amplifer. Does it show voltage or does your test light light up? If yes, then you need to repair your remote turn on lead.
You can test the remote lead by using a short Jumper wire from the +12V to the REM input, if the amplifier turns on, you founf your problem.

If there isnt any power there, you need to go to the next "break" in the line, which I assume is the inline fuse? Test the amplifier side.. do you have power? leave it together and test the batter side of the fuse. Is there power there?
If Yes, replace the fuse.
If No, go to the next "break" in the circuit. (dist blocks, etc.)

do you see the progression here?

Lemme know if I can offer any more assistance.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

I seperated this to make the process easier to read:

If you have power at any one of the steps, and took the mentioned steps to fix it, but your amplifier still will not turn on, then test the negative side. there are two ways to do this.

Place the + side/probe of your test equipment on the battery + and this time you will use the negative probe to start testing the grounds from the amplifier to the chassis ground and/or the battery.

the other way is to disconnect the ground from the battery and chassis (and any other device) then test the resistance of the wire from one end to the other.. if you are using a digital multimeter, it should read LESS THAN 0.05 Ohms-- On an analog meter the needle should swing all the way to the right.

If those two scenarios don't provide any results, replace your ground wire.
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Re: amp not gettin power after battery relocation

ok well i dont have the money to get a multi meter but im pretty sure i got a test light idk tho ill check if it turns out i dont have one is there any other way to check?
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ok well i dont have the money to get a multi meter but im pretty sure i got a test light idk tho ill check if it turns out i dont have one is there any other way to check?
yes....

you can use any 12 volt device, like a computer fan, etc.

Or you could stick the wires in your mouth under your tongue....







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DON'T DO this... I am just teasing!!!!!!

Any device that operates on 12V, without a switch or "turn on" button will work... you can even use a little flashlight light bulb and some wire (Ghetto Style)
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